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What is the most annoying faction? (Time out:0 days after 28-03-2004, 02:35)
Gaians
University
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Peacekeepers
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Spartans
Believers
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Adalbertus is offline Adalbertus
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Cologne, Germany
Feb 2001
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In a fit of rage I decided to complement the polls on strongest and weakest faction by this one. And this is why:

Once again I have a game with the Pirates! And as always they build lots of ships and bombard my coastline. This is just annoying. Not dangerous, not a cunning plan, doesn't cost me much because I simply develop two tiles away from the coast. It is just extremely annoying. And when I'm prepared to do so, I will again cut through the meager Pirates' defence like through thin air.

Annoying. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Jan 2004
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Some things have to be lived with.

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Empires were built by dictators, not democracies.
Jul 2002
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Dee because its predetermined that Hive will nearly always start next to her and she constantly declares war no matter what, stupid militant hippies

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Jan 2004
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I say University for a similar reason. If left unchecked, they graduate from Mosquito to Black Fly status by end game.

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Sep 2002
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Banana Sprayers

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Aug 2001
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Pirate ICS really annoys me.

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Mar 2002
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I'm mostly annoyed by those close enough to my borders to get in my way. If anyone starts on the same landmass as me, it is guaranteed that they won't survive.

But generally, every faction annoys me. They either don't respect my right to the social engineering choices I want to use. They're all just speed humps on my road to conquest or transcendence.

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May 2002
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Mim. She ALWAYS hates me unless I run Fundy, and I don't remember EVER running Fundy in a game of SMAC.

-Jam

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Jul 2003
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Pirates- they take the coast, annoy with bombardment and argue with wealth, and still don`t pose a threat. ARGGGGH!

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Aug 2002
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Assuming we're talking about when the AI plays them, then yes, the Pirates are the hands down winner. The AI is hopeless at developing sea bases, so it invariably plunks down a ton of bases _right_ offshore of your own. This actually annoys me more than the bombardment. It's usually not too hard to steal an offshore boat with a probe foil, which I tend to get pretty early. 5-6 offshore bases cramping my development take a lot more effort, and unless I'm really lucky, I can't just get RID of them.

Zeiter is offline Zeiter
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Dec 2003
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I find it annoying having to deal with a bunch of captured sea bases, regardless of whose they are. Oh, how I wish I could just hit that little "B" button and be done with them, but usually the other factions are too terrified of me to repeal the U.N. charter.

Overall, though, Deidre is the most annoying, though. She always seems to be the ringleader of the "anti-unsurpassed faction alliance".

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[SIZE=1] Overall, though, Deidre is the most annoying, though. She always seems to be the ringleader of the "anti-unsurpassed faction alliance".


Based on this, you could add to the SMAC humor threads:

How to make Dee nuke herself?
Make her strongest faction.


Btw. in Cologne, there is someone who "honours" buildings or places he thinks to be culturally important by spraying a banana somewhere near the entrance.

Jac de Molay is offline Jac de Molay
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Detroit
Sep 2001
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Lal for his seeming reluctance, as "peacekeeper" to enter into pacts even when Im running Dem and offering enticements. Miriam a close second.

Santiago_Claus is offline Santiago_Claus
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Mar 2004
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The Pirates, man, the friggin' Pirates.

Deidre and Cheese Dong's worrm hordes are enough of a threat to make them interesting. Yang's endless waves of footsoldiers and Santiago's indestructible ones are equally respectable. Booger is pretty scary before you get nerve gas, at which point it wouldn't matter if she had Singularity tech for all the good it would do her.

Domai is pretty annoying in the late game when you pick Thought or Cyber and he spazzes, but by that time he's so backward, who cares?

Now the Pirates are ANNOYING! They bomb your boreholes, shell your sensors, and flatten your forests and foils. Fight back and you get a bunch of worthless, open-ocean tin-can bases for the trouble.

Never will the Pirates mount a successful invasion; never will they march triumphantly into a capital, nor even a port for that matter -- they exist, like the Planet faction, for the sole purpose of breaking things dear to the player.

Alinestra Covelia is offline Alinestra Covelia
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Despite his hunky beard and his seriously arousing mis-matched eye colors (parp!), I would have to say that everybody's favorite pirate of men's pants, Captain Svensgaard, comes first in my list of fecal perpendicular perpetrators. That guy makes my crap hang sideways, he's so goddam annoying. He farts higher than his own arse, and also requires considerable de-gimping in most of my games.

The worst thing about him is that you have to construct a navy to go after him. The Hive rarely fields any navy, and would much rather send our deertick former squads out there to raise the landmasses in a Fun and Happy and Entirely NonMilitary Deertick Inspection Campaign to make them more assailable for our Deertick Sprayer Squads (10a-3r-1*2 plus Nerve gas for, you know, killer deerticks and stuff).

HOWEVER, some of my Hiverian technicians have worked out a workable plan to continue the Chinese Communist Party's good works in the old anti-piracy department (begun in the Year of 2001 After Dragon, during which the leadership announced that as part of the entry to the World Trade Organization it would combat piracy everywhere including unspecified deertick holdouts on the islands of Pescadores, Formosa, and oh yes did we mention Taiwan?). After the outbreak of SARS (which some of us will recognize by its Chironian name of Promethean Atypical Acute Respiratory Pneumonoid or PAARP for short (please open the window) they set an excellent example of forward thinking in the pursuit of hygiene by training 500 nuclear tipped warheads on the island in the event of a highly virulent outbreak of deertixamitosis in Taiwanese longgrass. Meanwhile, an assassination attempt on Captain Svensgaard as he campaigned in the canals and waterways of Pirate's Alinestran Cove, ahead of the elections, failed when the Hiverian agent assigned was instructed to "blow his brains out" but ended up shooting him in the buttock instead. Svensgaard later appeared on TV saying "There's nothing wrong with my arse."

The best thing about sending a Deertick Buster in the midst of the Pirate strongholds is that it doesn't actually alter the landmasses because they're usually built at sea. The blast radius can frequently take out multiple bases at once and drastically reduce their ability for retaliation. Few other factions will place their bases in such a nice array to labially accept the phallic thrust and explosion of a buster. (Some environmentalists have expressed doubts as to whether the watery domains host a sufficient level of grassland fauna to allow for a predominance of deerticks to reach a significant threat, but the Hiverian intelligence reports that ANY level of deertick activity is enough to to pose a threat and warrants extreme action for the safety of all involved. Forward diagnosis suggests that purification by fire, usually to several megaKelvins at a radius of not less than 500 km, is the most efficacious way to protect families in the locality.)

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Definitely pirates. As mentiones earlier, not only do they consistently bombard the coast (which is very time consuming to watch) but they usually have a juge airforce. What I have learned to do is to use naval probe teams. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but with a few good naval ships to protect them and a free market, you can mind control not only their base but their naval units as well.

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Aug 2001
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Mar 2001
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Pravin Lal. p.n.m.: backstabbing; cocksure; conniving; contrary, finicky; intransigent; obdurate; peevish; petulant; pretentious; whiny; wishy-washy...

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Jan 2004
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Damn those deerticks! Help stop the spread of lyme disease.

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Feb 2004
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May I point out to Lazerus that his statement that Empires are built by dictators, not democracies, is not true. To give two examples: the Athens of Pericles and The British Empire of the 19th centuries were both democracies that created empires.

The Pirates are most annoying, followed by the Data Angels

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Mar 2004
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It was very difficult to not vote for the fundies....but the winner in the Most Annoying category is the Pirates....who I refer to as the "cancer of the sea". Just when you think you have them eradicated they spread to another part of the world where my "chemo-therapy" (choppers) can not reach them. You need a satellite to keep track of them.

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Bah! I say the "benevolent" Sister Miriam. It's guarantee'd that you will be in a Vendetta with her within 20 years of contacting her (20 may be too much in fact).

She swarms at you with her fanatical armies spouting religious psycho-babble and hordes of Believer air support.

Worst thing I've seen is her launching a 20 unit raid on my cities (I had no AAA units built) and let's just say I was pissed.

Miriam is far worse than Captain "One-Eye".

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May I point out to Lazerus that his statement that Empires are built by dictators, not democracies, is not true. To give two examples: the Athens of Pericles and The British Empire of the 19th centuries were both democracies that created empires.


Hear, hear! You took the words out of my mouth.
(Although I was tempted to add the "American Empire" of the mid 20th to early 21st century )

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Someone said that the angels were the most annoying, and someone else said the believers.

I'd like to say that you can prevent having these factions being annoying. Build probe teams, and build high tech units. It's hard to use probe teams against the Angels, but by putting probes in your bases, they can't do anything, and the Believers can be held off by a couple good tech units.

I still think the pirates are by far the most annoying. YOu can't do anything to prevent them from attacking you. They have the naval supperiority, and no one is going to stop them.

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I have to go with the group and say that the Nautilus Pirates the the single most annoying faction, thanks to their lack of strategy and their pollution of the seas with their cruddy bases.

I think honourable mentions go to the Progenitor factions too, I hate those guys.

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Your two examples are not true democracies.

They are oligarchies. Shoot, even the American "empire" isn't a true democracy. But to save this thread from becoming a flamewar, I won't press the point.

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Your two examples are not true democracies.


I am most curious to learn what a true democracy is then. Feel free to respond via a private message if you feel that this thread is being pulled radically off-topic.

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I insist the Morganites are the most annoying faction. Much of my playing experience is from TCP/IP multiplayer games. In these games, some options are forbidden, particularly expelling a probe team. If you do not have a pact with Morgan, he will incessantly probe your cities, even if you have a treaty with him! This forces you to either fight his probe teams with your probe teams, kill his and accept vendetta, or shmooze a pact out of him. No other faction seems so intent on probing me when I have a treaty with them.

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The Pirates are easily handled most of the time with artillery, or marine units (which can attack sea bases from adjacent land) or with formers (to raise the land and provide and easy means of reaching them). Artillery is cheap and has a height advantage when firing from land at Sven's marauders. If he is sniping and you can't be bothered to reply in kind, crawlers along the coast will prevent him damaging your terrain imrpovements.

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I still say the best way to kill the pirates is with missiles and naval probe teams.

 
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