28-03-2004 03:09									#1
	Deadline For the List for Civ IV's compilation Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

As work progresses on Civilization IV, the relevancy of a List of Ideas for Civ IV declines with every passing day that new coding is accomplished.
With this spirit of events, I would like to propose a few dates for the compilation of the ideas.
Frankly, I would assume that a compilation needs to be done and sent out within 1-2 years of the announcment of the game since Civ games usually come out 5 years after another.
Therefore, Civ IV should come out in 2006... Therefore, our list needs to be completed sometime before July 2005 for it to have any meaning.

Personally, I would think that it would make sense for it to be completed by December 2004.
And then sent off sometime in January/February 2005 after the Major List Manager looks at everything and compiles it all into a readable format.

Therefore, I am asking you, the community to state what time you think would be ripe for compilation and sending.

	30-03-2004 15:10									#2
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I don't know that a deadline for compiling a list is all that important. (Sorry, Darkcloud, I know that you really really want to do this.) It seems that the suggestions so far are not being ignored. A bloke called 'Soren' (no, not that one) posted this at CFC:

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Tentative Civ IV Feature Changes 3/27/04

Civilization fans may be eager to know that Soren Johnson of Firaxis games made a few comments about Civilization IV in his talk on game franchises at the Game Developer's Conference. All the features under consideration are tentative, and given the game's long development schedule may or may not make it into the final version. Still, the focus of Johnson's talk was on removing "unfun" aspects of games to create sufficient conceptual room for improvements. Some of the features under consideration are:

Improved interface and help screens
Replacing game concepts such as pollution, rioting and corruption with more entertaining concepts that maintain game balance (he described the current pollution model as "playing whack-a-mole").
Adding concepts of religion and civics
Introducing more sophisticated concepts of unit experience and upgrades.
Johnson emphasized that the game is still a long way off, and is being coded from scratch to produce a better final experience. He also mentioned that the team is paying attention to a list of suggestions submitted by fans that is longer than the New Testament. He didn't say how long it took the Firaxis team to slog through it.

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It might be more useful to them to keep an updated and evolving set of lists linked to the specific posts where the suggestions were made.

	30-03-2004 16:11									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Peter Triggs Still, the focus of Johnson's talk was on removing "unfun" aspects of games to create sufficient conceptual room for improvements.

Looks like they might learn after all

quote: (he described the current pollution model as "playing whack-a-mole").

So true

quote: is being coded from scratch to produce a better final experience.

Bye-bye SMAC engine

Edit: to prevent this thread from going too far off topic, please continue any possible discussion on the Civ4 news here.

	30-03-2004 20:41									#4
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No mention of stacked combat yet...