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Jamski is offline Jamski
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No, dammit, around ME

-Jam

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As long as I get another drink soon, I don't care who its revolving around.
Although the room is starting to revolve around me...

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Well, I'm off to get hammered and play Risk. Think of me

-Jam

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Well, I'm off to finish my accounting assignment. Your activity sounds like more fun.

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* Makahlua twirls the telescope about again

Here's that Sombrero :



Ahem, who put my current wallpaper here?

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Monocerotis and Andromeda were my previous wallpapers! Now I have to change my background again! I come into a bar and look at my wallpaper! Stop it! Find you own Hubble photo

Now seriously, does anyone here use Hubble wallpapers too?

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Now seriously, does anyone here use Hubble wallpapers too?


No, recently I switched to a Nexus one

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I've got a favorite actor of mine for my wall paper right now, but it's been many things, including Hubble ones over the past few years

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I had a picture of Jupiter as my wallpaper for many years. Until recently when a certain redhead took its place.

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HEY WAIT A SECOND!! NO ONE HAS BUILT THE SPACE ELEVATOR!!

Your all just in a Planitarium you fool!!


On a side note - Interesting facts about building a sapce elivator. The Elivator Cable would not need to be uniform in diamiter. As each part of the Cable is supporting the weight of the cable below it the cables base need be only strong enough to support what ever kind of elevator "box" your going to use (likly a mag lev "train" of large preshurized moduals). As the Cable Rises high and higher it would thicken to support the additional weight, keep in mind though that the weight of most of the cable is much less then it would be on the surface of the planet as its distance from the planets center of mass is much greater. The thickest part of the cable would be at the Geosycronus orbital distance. Their could be some kind of "station" at that point if we wish but contrary to popular opinion the cable dose not end their. Their needs to be a counter-weight to keep the system balanced. All the stuff below Geosyncronus orbit will be traveling around the earth at a speed slower then that nessary for orbit and will thus want to fall. Mass at Geosyncronus orbit will be in Balance and neither pull the elivator down nor pull it out (up). So to balance the lower part of the cable we have an anchor mass at the end of some portion of additional cable above Geosycnous orbit. This mass and its Cable will be moving faster then is nessary for a stable orbit at that distance and will thus exert a upward pull, much like a ball being twereld on the end of a string. The further the mass is away from the planet the greater the force it will exert per unit of mass. The most likly candidate for such a mass would be a small asteroid (particularly one rich in Carbon to provide matrial to make the Cable with). The Cable would now tapper in reverse growing thinner as it aproatches the asteroid but remaining much thicker then the portion conected to the Earth. Any station located on that asteroid would experience artifical Gravity due to the Centripial force, the adsact amount being dependent on the total length of the cable above Geosyncronus. This also provides an ideal way to launch objects into deep space. Once cargo passes the Geosyncrounus point it will begin to be pulled outward, by simply not aplying any braking force to the cargo it will accelerate to incredible speeds as it travels down the Cable and with a convenietly placed tunnel in the anchor it will come shooting out like a bullet. With proper timeing this would send a space craft into nearly any part of the solar system without ANY fuel expenditure (normaly leaving Geosynronus orbit for some other part of the solar system requires a modest rocket burn).

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Nice idea. Why doesn't bloody NASA get off their arses and build one?

-Jam

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With our current materials technology the cable would need to be several kilometeres* wide at its widest point in order to have enough strength.

* Figure half-remembered from a book I read several months ago. Take it as you will.

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Not really a "cable" if its wider than most cities, I would argue.

-Jam

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With our current materials technology the cable would need to be several kilometeres* wide at its widest point in order to have enough strength.


Originally posted by Jamski
Not really a "cable" if its wider than most cities, I would argue.


Hence Super Tensile Solids.

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Not really a "cable" if its wider than most cities, I would argue.


The first articles about this subject spoke about 'spacetowers' (back in the sixties). I guess that tells enough.

But if the the tensile strength is high enough, a cable would do nicely

Btw, Jam. NASA did try to experience with cables once. They tried to get a cargo down to Earth by winding of a cable out of the space shuttle. It failed, but I don't remember the reason for sure, I thought the failure had to do with the wind conditions near earth surface.

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Hopefully that swinging cable didn't destroy anything.

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* GeoModder clicks his fingers...

Off course, that's why that jumbo disappeared somewhere around Hawai back then. Guess what it was hit by?

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* FlameFlash wakes up and stumbles out of the elevator.

The universe revolves?

* FlameFlash falls back into a chair and passed out.

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Yeah, it revolves round my head

-Jam

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* Skanky Burns drops a mindworm in Jams drink while he isn't looking.

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Oh! A tequila worm! I'll eat that, don't they make you high or something?

* * * * *

AAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!! SKANKY YOU BASTARD!!!!!!!!!

* Jamski goes wild and starts trashing the Rec Commons.

SKANKY!!!!!!! I'll get you for this!!!! AAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!

* Jamski collapses and groans *



-Jam

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And now we have a mindegg-Jamski.

Our newest secret weapon against the Hive

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My work here is done.

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Looks like the world has stopped revolving for Jamski for the moment.

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Looks like his heart has stopped too, if that medical monitor is correct.
* Skanky Burns sips his drink

You know, I really should help him out considering my small part in his current situation...
* Skanky Burns takes another sip of his drink

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* GeoModder stares to Skanky, and says with a hard, insinuating voice:

Skanky...

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You know, I really should help him out considering my small part in his current situation...
* Skanky Burns takes another sip of his drink


Your small part in his current situation?

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Mindworm + Drink -> Dead Jamski.

I had something to do with that.

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Oh I thought you were talking about your other small part ...

 
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