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Rommel2D is offline Rommel2D
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Feb 2003
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Since this is the first non-beta patch, no other patch should be required. If that isn't the case...

So far PBEM looks to be everything promised- loading and saving works fine if, and only if, you have your password. Too bad this messed up online MP.

MPTournament.biq gave me the illusion that I was able to choose water % on the map, even though the readme says 40% is automatic. It also forces Accelerated Production.

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YAY! A GLITCHY TWO MONTH DELAYED PATCH!

Here's an idea: Don't release it until its finished and don't give any dates to anger us when you can't hold your deadline?

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just got my new computer, installed c3c on it and patched up to 1.20... the jump from 1.00 to 1.20 works fine.

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Sep 2001
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Things I see wrong with the patch.

First, MPTournament.biq refers to 1.18 patch.
Also it still has a Radio tech implemented.
This is also true for all other BIQ files added with Conquests.
Like Cheaper Upgrades.biq, MPFastCiv3Conquests.biq, No Civ Traits.biq, No Unique Units.biq, Quick Civ.biq, With Plague.biq, etc... They all need to be changed to reflect the newest rules.

Second, even conquests.biq is not done properly.
It still has Radio tech in its list, but as non-era tech which is added to all civs at start.
Should be deleted, since it gives some bugs, like starting game with Radio or Radio in Civilopedia.

Third, Civilopeida.txt isn't changed to reflect that Radio tech is removed. Which means that "Enables Radar Towers" entry needs to be moved from Radio to Electronics.

Fourth, as alexman reported, it looks that Civ3Conquests.exe looks for science_industrial_new.pcx for industrial era, which gives error in all scenarios. It should look to science_industrial.pcx instead, and science_industrial_new.pcx needs to replace science_industrial.pcx

Fifth: How this passed Q&A???


I fully expect 1.21 to be released ASAP to fix these issuses.



Optional: When we are there, maybe some other easy things could be fixed.
-Like adding WWII Paratrooper in list of units with ZOC in Civilopedia
-removing offense AI flag from Musketeer (PtW leftover, when it had attack of 3)
-fixing bug with Inca leader being targetable by Stl. Fighter stealth attack (this maybe is not bug since stealth attack doesn't work for air units anyway)
-and if any conquests.biq changes are done, then adding them to other optional BIQs should be done too

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Oct 2003
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  Old Post 01-04-2004 17:30
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what's funny is 1.18 (which I thought 1.20 was, only with localizations) didn't have (some of) these problems.

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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Dec 2001
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  Old Post 01-04-2004 17:38
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Looks like the death blow for Conquests. Very sad.

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Feb 2002
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"CIVILIZATION III: CONQUESTS V1.20 DOES NOT SUPPORT SAVE GAMES FROM PRE-V1.20 VERSIONS."

I take it this means we'll all have to have dual installs until we finish our 1.15 games?

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I think that is a TYPO

a few points down it also states on the page:

PBEM: v1.20 Games can not be loaded on earlier versions. Earlier saves can STILL be loaded in v1.20

it really looks like this patch was not thoroughly editied prior to release

well I think if you are in multiple pbems you will need to have dual installs until all games are upto speed...

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May 2003
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Dear Friends:

I am the Head Admin of CIV3Players, the world's largest CIV3 Conquests ladder league with almost 600 ranked players.

We tried running with the 1.20 patch last night and gave up after 2 hours of testing.

There is a horrible bug that renders this patch WORTHLESS and UNUSABLE for the Multiplayer Community.

It is impossible to restart/reload a GAME. When you restart a previously begun 1.20 game, you are presented with a 90% black screen and a total loss of functionality. The game cannot be restarted no matter which of the 5 previous Autosave files you use. I consider it irresponsible that such basic functionality like this wasn't tested.

I am not referring to old 1.15 games not being able to be reloaded (the readme tells you that won't work). I am referring to all future 1.20 game being non-restartable.

We have advised all our users to go back to 1.15. The vendor needs to correct this major flaw and reissue a 1.21 patch as soon as possible.

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May 2001
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This even makes me, a die-hard Firaxis supporter, wonder!

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APRIL FOOLS! FIRAXIS DOESN'T REALLY SUCK, WE SWEAR!


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Thanks all, allthough I probably won't install 1.20 yet given the comments here.

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So, does it work for single player?

I was waiting for the corruption/FP issues to be fixed to start playing again. Does this patch do the trick?





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I guess what is really refreshing, is that the crowd of blind believers and apologists has thinned out to a more appropiate mist or faint fog! However, this is a very small consolation!

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Well I humbly suggest 1.15 as the best going, so far as concerns the Firaxis team of bug enhancers. Otherwise, mayhap try another game? Oh well, I've run out wit....

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Jun 2003
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This must be a joke, there're a lot of silly bugs in this "patch".

Also, why the official web page www.civ3.com still have this posted??..


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Notice: Unfortunately, the non-Beta patch for Civilization III: Conquests will not be ready for several more weeks. We are working hard with Atari to finalize the localizations. Once this has been completed the patch will be posted immediately. We thank you for your support, and ask that you please accept our apologies for the delay.


Sorry for being kind of rude, but this can't be true. At least for me. I know Firaxis/Atari provides a service with more quality.

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But it is a joke

Unfortunately not an intentional one - as the patch is available from both firaxis and atari as official and non-beta:

http://www.atarisupport.com/newfaq/...splay=DOWNLOADS

http://www.firaxis.com/downloads_pr...roduct=10,12,13

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The patch is still registered in the install/uninstall list. But it has a different name from past installs. It is called C3Conquestsv120. Why they changed the name I don't know but that should make it easy to uninstall.

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1.22 is out...it's grrrrrrrrrr-eat...

Well, its still pretty lackluster. I'm disappointed at Firaxis; though they did make their statements of apology and corrected their problems quickly, the glitchy patch should have never made it to market-this is not their first glitchy patch after all (Which people forget).

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We did not forget, it is just not life and death, so we get on with things. Flaws in games is not exactly unheard of, but we can still play.

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Patch looks fine so far, with 1.22.
Its great to see City views are back now.

The new combat rules seem to make warfare harder, appears to make things fairer, a small unit can hurt a bigger one more, but i've only tried it for 5 minutes so far.

Error: Small graphics bug (in 1280 mode?) , Ship etc Loading boxes in the bottom right don't fully clear, leaving a bit of rubbish on the screen.

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The new combat rules seem to make warfare harder,


Eh?

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ok, is 1.22 the final update, or is there one to fix it coming soon ???

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They haven't said it's the final patch, but I wouldn't expect another for a while.

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hmmm, thanks

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I just saw a rumour in another thread that a final patch is planned for the summer. Whether or not this has any basis in fact I have no idea.

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I just saw a rumour in another thread that a final patch is planned for the summer. Whether or not this has any basis in fact I have no idea.


hi ,

well with all the problems of the last patches , and some other things it would seem wise to do so , ....

indeed rumours are getting stronger to this , ..... but its a wait and see as they have never told anyone wheter or not a patch will be released , ...

have a nice day

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One would hope they would be descent enough to patch the game so that it had NO errors....

 
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