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Has anybody noticed this problem before...


I have the patch installed (and the medmod)
My graphics card: GeForce 5900FX

The screen flickers about every 2-4 seconds, and it's getting very annoying...

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No, ive never had that. Ive got a GeForce MX 5200 with nvidia 4403 drivers.

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Has anybody noticed this problem before...


I have the patch installed (and the medmod)
My graphics card: GeForce 5900FX

The screen flickers about every 2-4 seconds, and it's getting very annoying...


I had a similar problem with my former NVidia 64Mo card until I changed the frequency of my monitor to 75Mhz... I thought my monitor was about to die.

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I can't change the frequency... my monitor can only take 60 and below

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I don't have the problem all times though... today there were no problems at all

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I can't change the frequency... my monitor can only take 60 and below

The lowest monitor refresh rate is 60 Hz

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I can't change the frequency... my monitor can only take 60 and below


Ouch! And you're only complaining about CtP2?

Any half-decent monitor can handle refresh rates up to at least 70-75 Hz. Download a new monitor and/or video drivers if you have to, but get that rate up: low refresh rates are very bad for your eyes and 60 Hz is really the absolute minimum to use. What resolution are you on? Lower resolutions generally allow for higher refresh rates. If your monitor really can't handle decent refresh rates, get a new one -- your eyes will thank you.

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I'm getting the same issue with CTP2 on my new computer/monitor

HP mx703
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Resolution set at 1024x768
Color Quality (Highest - 32 bit)

So all I need to do is change the refresh rate to 85 Hertz (the highest setting I have)? What is the reasoning to keep it at a lower setting in the first place (as that was the default setting...)

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So all I need to do is change the refresh rate to 85 Hertz (the highest setting I have)? What is the reasoning to keep it at a lower setting in the first place (as that was the default setting...)


The reason it defaults to a lower refresh is so it doesnt damage your monitor. The monitor is always the bottleneck with refresh rates. With higher resolutions the max refresh will be lower.

If changing your refresh doesnt work, try using the nvidia 4403 drivers Hex (if you arent already using those), seeing as you have exactly the same graphics card as me... i mean FX not MX in my other post.

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What is the reasoning to keep it at a lower setting in the first place (as that was the default setting...)


Maq puts it a tad strongly perhaps but he's not wrong: the higher the refresh rate, the harder a monitor has to 'work'. This means it consumes more energy and it has a higher chance of breaking down.

The settings that are available by default in your windows settings are normally all approved by the manufacturor though, so using the highest setting available that you can get to show up there (different drivers can give different values) is not irresponsible --though above 85-90 Hz I doubt many people would notice the difference.

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Ouch! And you're only complaining about CtP2?


Yep... don't have this problem in other games

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Any half-decent monitor can handle refresh rates up to at least 70-75 Hz.



My monitor is far from decent

My screen-resolution is 1280x1024, but it's still running on Max refresh-rate... even on 640x480 it can max go to 60



But I doubt it's a refresh-rate problem... it's just that the monitor goes black for 1/10 second every 5 seconds

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No, I'm fairly confident that's a refresh rate problem alright. Like I said, 60 is awfully low (unless you have an LCD monitor -- do you?)

Unless you have a monitor that's like 20 years old, it should be able to support refresh rates higher than 60 on 640x480 (and probably on 1280x1024 as well). Like I said, download the latest video and monitor drivers. Even if refresh rate is not the problem, that's likely the solution

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The problems seems to be linked to NVidia Graphic Cards, if I remember well the players reporting this kind of problems all have a NVidia Card. Did you update your driver recently?

Try to find the latest driver along with older ones, while the latest drivers sometimes solve problems they are sometimes at the origin of other problems with older games, the older drivers are often more stable with older games and are generally perfectly working with the newest games.

I suppose that you have installed the default Windows driver for your monitor, try to find a driver specifically made for your monitor.

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(unless you have an LCD monitor -- do you?)


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Like I said, download the latest video and monitor drivers. Even if refresh rate is not the problem, that's likely the solution


I just haven't been able to find the official site for my monitor, and I don't even know what model it is... only that it's Daewoo... ok I found a site with that name, and the same way of typing it, but it doesn't look like they're making monitors...

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Try to find the latest driver along with older ones, while the latest drivers sometimes solve problems they are sometimes at the origin of other problems with older games, the older drivers are often more stable with older games and are generally perfectly working with the newest games.



I have tried both the newest drivers and some a little older... same result...

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Every monitor has a model number, which is usually listed on a sticker on the back. Use that to Google for a driver, or post it here and I'll see what I can find out (in that case also post your Windows version).

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As Locutus is writing it I think that it has something to do with the refresh rate.

If you can't find an appropriate driver that solves your problem you can also try the various forums related to hardware and/or monitor problems, you are likely to find a solution rather quickly this way... if there is one of course.

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That is a typical problem of Windows actually.

The monitor might be able to run more and by the sound of it, Daewoo is producing monitors.

try one of the following links, they have some drivers to download.

http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/daewoo/

http://drivers.softpedia.com/public/cat/9/3/

if not, you have to use either a tool for the grahpic-card or (depending on the Windoofs-version) change the registry.

I had similar problems with my PC, but I fixed by telling windows, that the only refresh-rate available is 100Hz, which both my monitor and graphic-card can run

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My monitor is model: 712B

Couldn't find that one on that site...

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http://dwe.co.kr/eng/support/man_ma...&subject=Others (it's #17: [Monitor Driver] 17" B Series (7**B); on page 4 there's also a WinXP only driver (#53), you could try both in you indeed have WinXP (starting with the WinXP only driver))

I'm not sure if your mon is

I also found a manual: http://dwe.co.kr/eng/support/manual...or_712B_ENG.pdf

At 1024x768, you can have a resolution up to 85 Hz. At 1280x1024 it only lists 60 Hz, but I bet it'll work fine on 70ish as well (possibly using a driver, else using the tools Gilg mentioned)

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Thx, downloaded and installed the WinXP driver... I'll tell you in a week or so if it worked or not...

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At 1280x1024 it only lists 60 Hz, but I bet it'll work fine on 70ish as well (possibly using a driver, else using the tools Gilg mentioned)


I just tried 70, but the screen just went blank

Then I tried 1024x768 in 85 and that worked fine

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I'm playing the game now, but it still blinks

I'll try to change the resolution to 1024x768


EDIT: Also flickers there

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Hmm, looks like this might be a known issue for your graphics card: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/sho...67&page=1&pp=15

Didn't read the whole thread but they say nVidia was working on a solution... but that was like 6 months ago. On at least some systems the solution seems to be to set your refresh rate to 100 Hz, but your monitor can't handle that so that won't help you.


Edit: further googling tells me the solution should be to download this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_56.72

(I *think* that should work for your PC but I'm not entirely sure -- but if it doesn't help it doesn't hurt either so give it a shot and roll back if it doesn't work at all).

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That doesn't sound like the monitor at all.

Might sound like a stupid question, but how big is your power supply?

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That shall do..........There can be problems with too small power supplies, but that isn't the case...........

The flickering, is it actually a normal flicker or the screen going blanck?

Which kind of CPU do you use (MHz)?
Which motherboard?

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It's just the screen going blank for 1/10 second, each 5 seconds... don't know the difference between flickering and just going blank for short time...

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Tried to ICQ you but didn't work.........

CTP2 is the only game you have the problem?

Flickering would be more that you see the refresh of the screen, but a blank every 5 seconds sounds completly different.

Can you check on your monitor via the menu which frequency it is detecting? (Normally it tells you vertical/horizontal and resolution).

If you try to run in a different resolution, do you have the same problem?

Do you play music? Have you tried to switch it off?

 
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