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Michigan
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
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cheap shot?? I don't think so.
whenever you take the easy way to fix a problem it's being lazy. this placing limits on everyone to fix a few small problems is the easy way. it's lazy. i know they work hard, that's what makes this a cool site. but again, placing restrictions on everyone???? just lowers the quality of the site.
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I disagree as well. I almost never start threads, but today I thought of two seperate subjects I would like to discuss. Now, I'm not going to die before tomorrow, so it's not a big deal to me. However, I wonder if this will have as much effect on "quality posting" as it will on spam. You are restricting the good along with the bad. I agree with your intentions, but I would rather have Ming & Mleonard deal with people posting too many worthless threads the "manual" way. That way you're not keeping anyone from posting multiple good threads. It seems like a case of quality & crap vs. no quality & no crap. I would prefer the former. The latter seems to equal no reason to post at all.
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Feb 2000
time: 23:13
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Markos, et al.:
On average, I create less than one thread per day in the entirety of Apolyton. With that in mind, though, I think the "one topic post per day in Apolyton OT" is a bit restrictive.
Using myself as an example, there are times when two unrelated subjects are of interest to me and — wishing immediate discussion — would want to post them in OT. With the new system in place, that wouldn't be possible (unless one were to combine the *unrelated* subjects into a single topic). My interest may wane over the intervening 24 hours (or, more likely, I'd lose key points ... that "lightbulb" effect doesn't always last forever) and, thus, a potential subject would be lost.
A compromise would be two topic posts in a 24-hour cycle. IOW, if TP No.1 shows up at 1 p.m. Apolyton time, only one other TP post from said poster could show up afterwards until 1 p.m. the next day. No matter the timing of the second post, it could not affect the next 24-period as long as it appeared in the first 24-hour period. Umm, that's not confusing, is it?
Anyway, just my two bits.
CYBERAmazon
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat on 06-14-2000 09:09 PM</font>
it just begs the OT crowd to run amok.
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Hmm, never thought of it like that......I now support the new restrictions 
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People, don't you see, this is just MarkG's slow way of banning the forum altogether. As far as I see, this rule is pathetic and should be abolished. "Off-Topic" should mean we can post anything we want.
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Sergeant Sheets
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of every inner Fantasy you have.
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
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Again, its a dictatorship of two, and theirs to do with as they see fit, just is why MarkG makes an ass of himself and creates useless rules. Like 1 topic per day. But, its JUST a ****ing web site. It don't mean ****.
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This policy would effect me - some of us start threads dealing with community projects like "Pick the Winners" for football, or more recently, "Battle of the Bands". Now, obviously I could wait a day to start a political thread (my favorite kind) if it was necessary to start one of these community threads, but by then the inspiration for debating the political issue has diminished.
I believe 1 thread per hour (or something of that nature) would be a sensible attempt to accomplish your goal without causing harm to the atmosphere of the OT...
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werefox
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woohoo! i'm a queen! woohoo!!
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
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*werefox dances on markg's head.*
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:13
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Con, I guess I'm fairly prolific w/ about 5 threads a week on average. However I am streaky, today none, yesterday I did three and one in Civ2 community. This is when I'm really having fun and enjoying the OT the most. So in this way I think it will cut my enjoyment of the site. I have tried to contribute to the Civ 2 community forum, but it's work at this stage, Civ has been done. I like the site so I try but... So it's a dry time and unlimited posting in the other forums has little value to people who enjoyed Civ and hang out in the OT and BS and wait for Civ 3. This further control related move, this punishing of the members of this site, innocent and guilty alike will further drain our depleted numbers in the OT in my estimation. Splitting S&D from the OT and now this...
This is the second internet place that's I've really enjoyed, the first went belly up do to a single management decision. When the Xoom International chat went membership overnight I lost a community I really enjoyed. Though I had the address of some of the regulars we fell out of touch.
I'd really like it if the management here realized how peaceful things have been around here, so much more quiet now than just 8 or 9 months ago when I left for the Phils. Almost too peaceful..GPs recent thread, a list of the departed, was huge. I think something should be done to stop the bleeding, rather than choking the patient w/ a thread restriction, in my opinion.
Pro, if people don't leave or spend less time here and if they don't resent not being able to post a second or third thread on a new idea, then perhaps the effort that goes into each post and each thread will increase. If that happens then thread quality would increase. Perhaps good threads that pass off page 1 and into history might continue to grow instead of fading.
Well there you go.
On the balance I'd say thread limits should be forgotten.
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*Mark G lobs hand grenade onto notice board, toddles off to bed somewhere in Greece*
He he, Mark will be waking up soon.
"Wakey Wakey Hand off Snakey Mark, you naughty naughty boy! Clean up this mess!"
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Alexander's Horse (edited June 14, 2000).]</font>
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Mao
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Apolyton
Jun 1999
time: 00:13
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Damn...less than a day and already over 100 posts...
This doesn't apply to mods does it?
*goes back to working on grand scheme to become a mod*
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Atahualpa
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Hawthrone
Mar 1999
time: 06:13
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I dont think, other forums will be attacked by spammers, but rather I think, a lot of threads on OT will be hijacked and spammed.
And spamming within threads is much harder to control, cause you actually have to read a lot of threads, to see if he is really spamming.
And, Mark, I dont think this will work, to populate other forums.
People will go to other forums, when there is something to discuss in other forums! Right now, wait we have Civ3 that was/is discussed to death (nearly). Then there is CtP2, but well not everyone did like CtP and so some dont care. And well, the things people will say about CtP2 is: "Correct this bug in CtP1". And now, if everyone said that, we'll go crazy over there.
Smac forum never got much attention here. That was mainly, because there was an official forum for it.
And CtP, well, the CtP forums still live, but I dont think, there is much going on there. Unless you dont have a fast PC, CtP isnt really that good.
Ata
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I really don't see why you are imposing this on it. You are doing this in an attempt to solve an OT problem, but almost all OTers, including both moderators, don't see this as a good solution.
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*Horse gallops through the thread, a flaming toilet roll dangling from his tail, "The Sky is falling! The Sky is falling!*
*shrieks, drops dead*
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The last post is but a small example of the kind of post soon coming to an on-topic thread near you 
Carry on.
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UEC
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Republic of Shireroth
Oct 1999
time: 05:13
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The implimentation of this proves you are bigger fools then I ever thought you ever were!!!
REMEMBER BLACK SATURDAY!!!!!!!
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Audentior Province of Shireroth
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"BOOOMism the other, other white meat!
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Jasonian on 06-14-2000 09:13 PM</font>
"Argh. I'm upset. Do this. Do that. I don't even understand the problem. Blah blah blah."
Ok, I think this thread has become a battleground of posters vs MarkG. How annoying.
MarkG, will you please breifly sum up what exactly it is you want this to acomplish so we all aren't taking wild stabs or cheap shots?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>ok, what we are trying to do
1) protect the forum from organized spam attacks
2) protect the forum from "god, I'm bored, let's start 20 threads to see if I get banned" incidents
3) possibly lower the number of totally idiotic threads(that remains to be seen )
4) give more room on page 1 for more people(e.g. avoid "Page 1: the kingdom of nimrod" effects )
4) take away some of the work the moderators have to do to control spammers
benedetti, do you see no logic in all of the above?
Adam Smith, I dont know if your idea is doable
Lancer, I dont know if people are leaving the forums, what I know is that over the last 6 months we made new records in total pageviews all over the site, and right now we are very close to that
MasterBob, "Off-Topic" should mean we can post anything we want.
You CAN still post anything you want(check with the FAQ first )!
Uurban Ranger "You can't eliminate spam unless you totally prohibit postings"
it's worth trying, no?
Victor Galis, do you feel opressed because you cant go to the "ladies room"?
Btw, Ming posted elsewhere that you should send me a mail whenever you need the second thread during the day. Originally I was thinking of a post on this thread, but mail sounds good as well. So, do mail me when you need a second thread.
I have goten 2 such mails. The thing is, it was done by people who started threads in the OT about this decision 
btw(2), on the issue "OT is about casual chat with our friends", there is always the Coffee shop...
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