03-04-2004 12:00									#1
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http://www.geocities.com/ctp2strategy/

Take a look, tell me what you think (then ill disagree and ignore you)

Its basic now, but it will get more detailed soon.

	03-04-2004 12:12									#2
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I'm listed in the credits

Good info on the site, you could probably be competitive basing your stradegy on that alone (I use the same basic stradegy and have yet to win a game ) Keep up the good work

	03-04-2004 19:13									#3
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basic but working.

Some remarks:
1.) No back button on the sub-pages (I hardly ever use it, as alt-left is easier , but anyway
2.) You shall have mentioned that you are part of the war-monger group
3.) terraforming: you shall mentioned it depends on the mod
4.) Farmers: You shall use them in ANY small city to get as quick as possible from 1 to 2 (and more)
5.) Scientists: Or cities to far away from anywhere.
6.) "Keep cheap long vision units like Warriors or Archers along your border to see enemies approaching" and to prevent babarians to appear
7.) buildings: You might want to mention the different city sizes.

	03-04-2004 19:45									#4
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quote: I'm listed in the credits

Of course I steal learn new things everytime i play.

quote: Some remarks: 1.) No back button on the sub-pages (I hardly ever use it, as alt-left is easier , but anyway 2.) You shall have mentioned that you are part of the war-monger group 3.) terraforming: you shall mentioned it depends on the mod 4.) Farmers: You shall use them in ANY small city to get as quick as possible from 1 to 2 (and more) 5.) Scientists: Or cities to far away from anywhere. 6.) "Keep cheap long vision units like Warriors or Archers along your border to see enemies approaching" and to prevent babarians to appear 7.) buildings: You might want to mention the different city sizes.

1) BAH, i dont use those either so thats how it will stay for a while.
2) I am, but im also part of the "trying anything to win the game anyway i can" group. But i will include some kind of alternate constant builder strategy.
3) Of course, but i will have more sections for mod specific strategies. Dont want to get them mixed with default ones.
4) I use this too to get to pop 3 asap on standard map sizes, but long games can require every beaker of science. But i will note it
5) Anywhere? I guess if i had a city too far from anywhere id disband it Are you referring to captured enemy cities? Ill touch on that eventually.
6) Are Barbarians not enemies?
7) This is coming soon.

	03-04-2004 20:02									#5
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Nice site

quote: Originally posted by WesW a long, long time ago Yes, yes, list your favorite tricks and strategies...I will then alter the game to render them ineffective! Ha, Ha, Ha!

	03-04-2004 20:12									#6
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I remember reading that recently in the archives and i look forward to it

	08-04-2004 03:35									#7
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(big mc is going for a guilt trip)

after i told you to steel whatever you liked of my website graphics etc I am not even listed in the credits

	08-04-2004 03:42									#8
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Are you not a poster on Apolyton Forums?

When i borrow something from your website ill give you special treatment, but for now how about we exchange links?

	08-04-2004 13:30									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Are you not a poster on Apolyton Forums?

NO it's one of the other voices that posts here

I will post a link on my website next time i run an update (Friday)

	08-04-2004 13:56									#10
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc NO it's one of the other voices that posts here I will post a link on my website next time i run an update (Friday)

Hey good, now we are not longer feeling lonley

EDIT: we corrected spelling mistakes

	08-04-2004 13:58									#11
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quote: NO it's one of the other voices that posts here

That explains alot

Update to the site will come soon, im busy with a MP mod for me and EPW right now but bits are added often and are hard to spot, so a list of updates may appear. Bigmc link also added when i next update.

	10-04-2004 14:33									#12
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Site has been updated with exciting things such as links page other bits and bobs added to other sections. Guestbook also added, so sign it.

	10-04-2004 18:03									#13
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quote: Originally said by Maquiladora The Big Mc's CtP2 site, he wants you to steal things from his website

	10-04-2004 18:15									#15
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I would not mind but i said something good on my site and I only allow people who participate in the forums to use my stuff with permission of course.

	10-04-2004 23:54									#16
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Okay i changed it man i shouldve left it, at least cot signed the guestbook

	11-04-2004 02:47									#17
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theres a guestbook

	11-04-2004 07:37									#18
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ok i take it back, you have a "passing interest" in War Walkers.

	12-04-2004 23:34									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Okay i changed it man i shouldve left it, at least cot signed the guestbook

I did actually leave a comment as well - just doesn't appear on the 'view guest book option' , just so you know.

	13-04-2004 02:41									#20
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Hmm thats shoddy. Maybe its because i put 2 comment boxes there.

	03-05-2004 21:23									#21
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Good work Maq!

Any plans on errr..... making the site look better? eg colour scheme, layout, banner etc?

	03-05-2004 21:33									#22
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quote: Good work Maq!

Thanks.

quote: Any plans on errr..... making the site look better? eg colour scheme, layout, banner etc?

Shutup ... yea i might make it look better at some point, but completing all the information is more important right now.

	03-05-2004 21:45									#23
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I'm impressed that you actually use less formatting than my wwebsite (mine has headings... but then again yours has pictures). Don't let yourself get distracted by appearance, content is not only more important, as you say, but also more useful and more impressive (knowledge about playing CTP2 is considerably rarer than knowledge about writing HTML...).

But don't let me rant at you . Keep up the good work .

	03-05-2004 22:07									#24
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Yes, adding the bells and whistles can be tempting, but also a huge waste of time if you keep changing your mind.

I will continue to keep my site as "droll" as possible for now.

	15-05-2004 18:43									#25
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Site has been updated but dont expect alot. I just removed some text that really didnt make sense for shorter games and added some other bits.

edit: i just realized a stupid bug with the guestbook if you add 2 comment boxes too, sorry if you didnt get your spammy messages posted

	23-05-2004 07:10									#26
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You said on the strategy site that Communism has better commerce than democracy. In the game it says democracy has a better commerce.

Am I wrong because I have always liked Communism over democracy because of production (pollution becomes a ***** though).

Corporate Republic is still the best .

	23-05-2004 18:50									#27
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Youre not wrong. However, they split commerce differently. You get alot more gold in Communism than Democracy, unless you lower the science tax in Democracy, so more gold is portioned, but it takes away from your scientists in cities. You can also max the sliders more easily in Communism because they have lower wage expectations. Ill change the wording to gold anyway.

Generally I prefer Democracy if all my cities have happiness buildings and tile improvements, also depends how quickly i need advances like Tanks, if not quick then i use Communism.

	27-05-2004 05:09									#28
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I prefer communism, because your people in democracy are so whiney if they are underfed, paid, and worked. I usually get more science under communism since I can pay my citizens less even though 20% less goes to research. I don't see how you can choose democracy over communism's production power, although dead tiles are a real pain until conservation .

My thoughts winning the game:
If you are planning to last until the genetic age stick to democracy until you get corporate republic, and then get technocracy to carve your own empire out of your neighbors cities, because you need to control 60% of the world to achieve science victory (Meaning that Conquest is necessary even in peaceful victories) which I am assuming is the only region you would stand such a long game to.

I still haven't won by a diplomatic victory if there is one, but in Civilization 3 it is to easy so I might have purposely skipped that part.

Call to Power 2 isn't really a game for builders since there are long periods of time where there are no more improvements to construct in your cities so an empire dedicated to peace will eventually have to train a military.

	27-05-2004 05:26									#29
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quote: Originally posted by bernhj I prefer communism, because your people in democracy are so whiney if they are underfed, paid, and worked. I usually get more science under communism since I can pay my citizens less even though 20% less goes to research. I don't see how you can choose democracy over communism's production power, although dead tiles are a real pain until conservation .

I use democracy if the probability of war is very low (usually on a very large map) because the increased growth and science. If the other player(s) are near me or I plan on attacking communism all the way.

quote: Originally posted by bernhj My thoughts winning the game: If you are planning to last until the genetic age stick to democracy until you get corporate republic, and then get technocracy to carve your own empire out of your neighbors cities, because you need to control 60% of the world to achieve science victory (Meaning that Conquest is necessary even in peaceful victories) which I am assuming is the only region you would stand such a long game to.

I didn't know the sceintific victory was possible in multiplayer ( I play with wonders disabled anyways). If I was going to conquer 60% of the world I would conquer the rest while I'm at it. Maybe your reffering to single player?

	27-05-2004 05:54									#30
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I think science victory is possible in MP, but how likely is it that one player TOTALLY controls 60% of the map long enough to build and defend all their obelisks? Not very!

Anyway the great thing is one government wont always be better than the other, when it comes to Communism and Democracy anyway. But i know you could easily get away with staying in peaceful governments all way through the game and still beat the AI, without building any tile imps and only having 10 cities