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Camaleao is offline Camaleao
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Apr 2004
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Elg Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I have playing ELG , but my record is launch spaceship about 1700 b.c in the level king, this is a bad time.
I should want that somebody pass me for donwload a file with turn per turn saves at a ELG or a site where i have donwload this.
thanks for attention!!!

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I have all-turn saves of ELG #2. I can send them by e-mail. The corresponding thread includes a detailed log.

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My e-mail is danilofv@bol.com.br
Since now , thank you

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Jan 2001
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I can send you some files, too, but need to know if you can extract game save files from zip files.

If you can, there already are a number of zip files in my ELG Guide as well as others in individual ELG threads that you can download and inspect.

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First, I want to say I read your ELG guide, is the best guide about elg
Second, I want you send me your files, but send me to my other e-mail please, danilofv@yahoo.com.br , because there are more MBs free.
Third, what site is your ELG guide, with zip files???(I couldn't find this)

Thanks again

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Jan 2001
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Zip files of several games are among the posts in and following the guide in this forum, but I will attach the one for my game in ELG #7 here:

Attachment: el7.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

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Please, Send me more links about ELG's saves.

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Feb 2000
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OK, I'm bamboozled.

What is ELG?

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Early Landing Game

A game in which the goal is to land a spaceship as early as possible.

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Father Beast
I saw some ELG's games and there were games with landing about 100 turns ago (1a.c.)
It is very amazing!!!

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Search in this forum and general for Solo's ELG series of games. Lots of detailed turn logs to read.

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I saw some ELG's games and there were games with landing about 100 turns ago (1a.c.)
It is very amazing!!!


Isn't that with a modified game? I thought apollo couldn't be built until then and then you have to allow for flight time.

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Oct 2000
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Isn't that with a modified game? I thought apollo couldn't be built until then and then you have to allow for flight time.


IIRC the game was turned into scenario (and special maps were used).
Nowadays solo and Zenon seem to manage pre-500AD landing on any kind of random map...without tipping huts

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IIRC the game was turned into scenario (and special maps were used).
Nowadays solo and Zenon seem to manage pre-500AD landing on any kind of random map...without tipping huts


I believe that they are random maps, but not any kind. I think they choose the random maps that are most suitable to post as early landing games.

In my experience, when I start with a random map (apart from the fact it takes forever to get a start with no techs) the terrain is often not very good for an early landing - no rivers, lots of jungles or tundra, shortage of trade specials, etc.

Maybe I'm just unlucky

RJM at Sleeper's

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RJM,

I would say that I have to start playing from between 10 to 15 no tech random starts, before finding one with a SSC site (4 trade specials), making it suitable for use in a comparison game.

I think your own experience with random starts is typical, since many of my own starts are discarded until a suitable one is found.

It might be fun sometime to use a "rejected" start just to see how well we can do with one of these, and you might want to provide one of your own and launch a comparison game using it.

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RJM,

It might be fun sometime to use a "rejected" start just to see how well we can do with one of these, and you might want to provide one of your own and launch a comparison game using it.


It might be an interesting exercise, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as fun. Mostly, the rejected starts lead to fairly tedious games - at least in the early years. I'm not sure what happens later on - I tend to start again if things aren't going very well by AD 1.

RJM at Sleeper's

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What is the record these days?

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Best with a small map, no rule restrictions:

16 AD by Samson


Using ELG rules (random medium map start, no human starting techs, no hut tipping, no caravan rehoming):

495 AD by me in ELG #8

On Zenon's edited map with other ELG rules in effect:

335 AD by him

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impressive, I'm still toying with phalanxes at that time
more or less

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Gee, 16 AD is hard to beat
Did you have to do the build order trick to get all the parts built the same turn Apollo was built?

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I think the earliest Apollo can be built is 1AD, and a 15-3-3-1-1-1 is 15.7years, so it looks like he did do that to launch on 1AD and arrive on 16AD. I suppose someone could try launching a 33-8-8-1-1-1 on 1AD and arrive 6AD...

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It's been so long since I launched a ship from a full civ, I forgot the travel times.

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33-8-8-1-1-1 on 1AD and arrive 6AD...



I'm going to lie down and die!

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All you need is 53 cities and about 15000 gold by AD1...

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All you need is 53 cities and about 15000 gold by AD1...


Oh ... that's OK then ... for a moment there I thought it might be, well, difficult.

RJM at Sleeper's (who once had 10 cities in 1 AD)

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I've seen an extreme ICS get over 50 cities by AD1, but not the accompanying tech progress to be ready to build Apollo by then.

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