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Illuminatus is offline Illuminatus
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As a result of discussion in thread, I have tried that. Replacing mindworms with exploding gravship planetbuster is... something completely different I have just tried three games on transcend level with this and they are quite an experience. By MY 2102, you will probably be notified of major atrocities by "Aliens" (native life), which will promptly cause all factions to declare war on native life (Aliens again) according to UN Charter. Well what do you expect, fungus has just attacked you with nuclear weapons. Nuclear blasts are fission based, meaning that they are relatively weak (in PB rations, ofcourse), but can still wipe out a base and all units in one square radius thus being equal to rarely built fission buster. When a faction is exterminated by, um, exploding worms, it will restart (if the Do or die rule is excluded) as if being normally eradicated. I think that all Apolytoners, and SMACers worldwide should try this, since it is quite an experience.

Playing as Spartans, by 2148, all factions have been eradicated (and restarted) averagely two times, including my own. There was at least 40 planetbuster detonations, and minor craters were visible on map, but since they are fission powered, detonations do not take away large chunks of land away (I think that they only destroyed five or six tiles of land with the craters).

How to do it? Quickest way is to find a line in your Alpha/Alphax.txt file (works for both), find for example mindworm line (you can do it for all lifeforms), and change it to look like this:
Mind Worms, Gravship, Planet Buster,Psi, 5, 5, 0, CentEmp, 3, 00000000000000000000000000

Since I just tested it for thirty minutes to find out if it works, I will now try to find out the following:
*can this buster worms be captured ( I think they can)
* how is it to run FM with buster worms, and alter all native lifeforms to buster lifeforms.
*what are the large fung booms like
*is it possible to transcend
*how does map look like after 200 years.

I shall name this "Something completely different mod". I wonder what will be thoughts of others when they try this. And last thing: Geo, you ARE A LEGEND for conceiving such a thing!

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I have just tried three games on transcend level with this and they are quite an experience. By MY 2102, you will probably be notified of major atrocities by "Aliens" (native life), which will promptly cause all factions to declare war on native life (Aliens again) according to UN Charter. Nuclear blasts are fission based, meaning that they are relatively weak (in PB rations, ofcourse), but can still wipe out a base and all units in one square radius thus being equal to rarely built fission buster. When a faction is exterminated by, um, exploding worms, it will restart (if the Do or die rule is excluded) as if being normally eradicated.
Since I just tested it for thirty minutes to find out if it works, I will now try to find out the following:
*can this buster worms be captured ( I think they can)
* how is it to run FM with buster worms, and alter all native lifeforms to buster lifeforms.
*what are the large fung booms like
*is it possible to transcend
*how does map look like after 200 years.


Should be very interesting, indeed! I have played with changing the Locusts to a Nerve Gas tipped missile available with Retroviral Engineering, with limited success - they just don't attack that much, and I've never seen the 8th Faction enable the Nerve Gas. However, I may just make a change to my mod and make the Locusts into Fission PB's! Oooooh, this is gonna be so fun seeing the look of terror on Morgan's face when he realizes he's got umpteen nukes coming at him at once! Bwahahahaaha!

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And, as promised to Darsnan, here are the specs I created for this particular 'surprise'.

Planetoid, Gravship, Planet Buster,Stasis, 5, 0, 0, Disable, 0, 00100000000000000000100000

I've made this up last year (didn't work further on the scenario till recently), but I'm on track again.
The fitting graphics for this unit is an (surprise) asteroid, also, in the scenario, the graphics for PB attack and asteroid impact event have been switched to better fit in this sort of things.

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Try altering MWs to PBs and then setting abudant lifeforms. That is incredible!

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Geo: it works with my settings too. Perhaps I should better disable such units as build options

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Yes, I know, my settings are just a bit more specific for the scenario.

A way to limit the impact is to make the MW PB's needlejets or perhaps choppers, that way they have a shorter lifetime. Some of them might run out of 'fuel' before reaching a desired target.

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Why limit them?

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Give peace a chance!!!

Btw, was that your voice on the 'something completely different' link? I only hear those words and the PB explosion. Don't know if a video was included as well?

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This mod sounds neat! Certainly different.

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Do you guys think it would be possible to replace the mind worms with colony pods? Think about it, the alien empire of Centauri.

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Do you guys think it would be possible to replace the mind worms with colony pods? Think about it, the alien empire of Centauri.


The 8th Faction won't build cities if given CP's - they just move the units around and around and around.....
I built Alien CP's into a Scenario I made back in October. I also built in Formers, Crawlers, an a host of other units for the 8th Faction. The only thing the 8th Faction will do is attack and destroy, and if a unit can't do that (for whatever reason), why it does nothing with said unit except move it around.
Good idea though!


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Sounds like those nanotech bombs that you could use if you ran the militant ecologist government choice in CTP.

Are we allowed to mention CTP in here?

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.....And last thing: Geo, you ARE A LEGEND for conceiving such a thing!



I'm quite not sure if "legend" is the right word.

"Sadistic madman" sounds more appropriate for concocting this psychotic mod.

(Nuclear mindworms? )

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Are we allowed to mention CTP in here?



mmm,

Just kiddin'

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I'm quite not sure if "legend" is the right word.

"Sadistic madman" sounds more appropriate for concocting this psychotic mod.

(Nuclear mindworms? )


[disclaimer] Please keep things in perspective, the MW's being PB's is NOT my idea, I merely hinted at a 'native' specific scenario unit I created, and even posted several limiting factors [/disclaimer]

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Riiiiiiiiiight.

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Can't resist:

I hereby declare this feature:

The FM counter!!



Hopefully I won't get for this...

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And also the

Blatant Ecodamager Deterrent

It really pays to be clean,
Or end up glowing green.

Now we know why the planet never previously reached the critical fungal mass for transcendance. There were way too many PB lifeforms.

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I just saw this, and I'm laughing myself silly

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Give peace a chance!!!

Btw, was that your voice on the 'something completely different' link? I only hear those words and the PB explosion. Don't know if a video was included as well?


There wasn`t a video
BTW, the one who posts from where does that voice come from, shall get a reward in this thread.

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I'm quite not sure if "legend" is the right word.

"Sadistic madman" sounds more appropriate for concocting this psychotic mod.

(Nuclear mindworms? )


Well, it isn`t his work entirely, since I am the madman who wanted to replace MW with PBMW . It is interesting, you know

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Now we know why the planet never previously reached the critical fungal mass for transcendance. There were way too many PB lifeforms.


Cool line for sig!

Anyway, I think this is really a sadistic mode. Perhaps I should deter from setting all native lifeforms as PBs if I want to play a little longer ( I won by 2211 a conquest victory - factions stopped restarting, and lost by 2157 as Morgan - bad FM ). Also it is possible to capture PB lifeforms , and Planet Cult has a PB from the begining of the game. Even AI factions acknowledge this formidable units as planet busting capability. I will also disable breeding such units, since this led to Gaians massive nuclear attack on remnant of Hive in 2205 with PBMWs.

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Thanks for sigging my line. Anyway I really believe, there should be a point in being planet friendly, besides preventing ever rising sea-level.

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All you need to do is build Pressure Domes and make sure you have some sea formers.

Once the nukes cause global floodings, everyone drowns but you!

(I've done this and it feels great )

On a related note, is there a way to increase the blast range of the Sin Buster?

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Yes, click on menu, select quit, and the whole planet disappears from your comp.

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All you need to do is build Pressure Domes and make sure you have some sea formers.

Once the nukes cause global floodings, everyone drowns but you!

(I've done this and it feels great )

On a related note, is there a way to increase the blast range of the Sin Buster?


Just remembered- MWPBs do not cause eco damage . We can see that Planet can planetbust itself if it wants too.

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