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Ouro_827 is offline Ouro_827
Prince
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Feb 2004
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Here, Have A Game Put an end to popups!

This is a standard game, SP, Librarian, 50-70 water, average everything else, rules are All Victory, no co-op, scattering on, blind off, do or die, and steal tech on. SMAC only, SMAC rules and factions. Hive. I started the game as practice for an upcoming PBEM... So, tell me how you do, post shots and games... I'll give you a clue.... you've got a great starting location!

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GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Jan 2004
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  Old Post 06-04-2004 23:01
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Nothing to do with our upstart, Ouro?

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Well..... I have to start somewhere... Haven't played as Hive in a couple of years, like I said... This way, I can just kind of revise what the really good people do here, then use PBs on Franky and all who oppose the great Chairman! Bow to your Ruler!

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May I be your armed force?

Flubber is offline Flubber
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Aug 2000
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  Old Post 06-04-2004 23:36
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I opened the turn-- its at 2141 right ??


A few points

1. Why are your bases so widely spaced ??-- Plunk them down quicker. Think turn advantage. Particularly since the new base gives 10 minerals toward a shiny new former.

2. Why do you have so few formers?? cardinal sin as the HIve not to have lots of formers-- remember you have a positive support rating so get those formers out there. Plus you had 133 cash sitting around . .. what for . .. rush a former or a rec tanks

3. I did not agree with some of your early tech choices ( although you obviously traded for some techs).. Industrial automation should be a priority and you should avoid some of the early techs until and unless you have a use for them. For example, you acquired doc flex ( easy to tell as you don't have doc mob) but were not building any ships !!! To me thats a tech you trade for when you are ready to use it. Each tech you acquire drastically increases the research cost of the next tech you start researching so pick carefully. I would have likely accepted doc flex too but guarateed I would have been rushing ships out there immediately.



I played it for about 15 years, building formers and infilling bases ( REMEMBER it takes forever for a base to use all its tiles and by the time it can, advanced terraforming means you don't need to use all of them . . . so don't be so afraid to have some overlap in the base radii ) .. . .but then realized I wouldn't enjoy playing a game started so differently than I would have played it.

If you have the initial start, I could play that and show how I would play it from the outset .. . Oh and I don't claim to be the HIve expert but they are fun and interesting to play.

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What? Sorry! That must have been my fault... I must have posted the wrong game... that must be totally wrong... I don't know what I posted... are you sure? I'll check when I go home... I've got a lot of saves, so I probably grabbed the wrong one... I was trying to post a game in 2101... the Hive game that I eventually made it to, from the starting one, I had mob and auto, which you both said I didn't have.... I don't have many formers usually though... only ten for about ten cities usually... I get ten with about four cities, and by the time I found the next cities, the formers are already working, so I don't need to build more... sorry again, will try to fix and have no idea where this came from... must be old, like I said, haven't played Hive in a while, and back then didn't realize how powerful crawlers were...


Depends how little morals you have Geo? Willing to pop out X-Wave and X-Blink Choppers? And use them properly...

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  Old Post 07-04-2004 05:26
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Hm... Get a bigger avatar today!

Let's try this again... here's the link
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...theHive2101.SAV

Just curious, Flubber, what SPs did you have in the game you downloaded? I didn't think of trying to finish it... I often play games partway, then forget about it...

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The Hive. You had to pick the Hive. Man, I can't play Yang, I'm too economic, never have a military (literally), and therefore could care less about support and police. All I use are probe teams and missiles, and even on Transcend, the strategy works.

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Exact reason I'm asking for help... I've done decent though.. just my economy went from 1500 ec with +30, at war with Zarhakov, to 300 with -50, warring with all but the good Academician... I'm learning, plus, this way, I don't have to learn in a PBEM.....

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Let's try this again... here's the link
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...theHive2101.SAV

Just curious, Flubber, what SPs did you have in the game you downloaded? I didn't think of trying to finish it... I often play games partway, then forget about it...


I don't recall but I think it was none-- there were a bunch of spread out bases and you had something like 4 AAs but hadn't gotten crawlers yet.

The university was just to your south and you had obviously traded some tech with them. IN my brief play I actually built a probe and stole a base they had on MOunt Planet while keeping a treaty with them

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Apr 2003
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  Old Post 07-04-2004 19:49
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Yang is an excellent candidate for ICSing.

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I find Gaians do it better. They can eat fungus, and have a higher natural efficency = more bases without b-drones

-Jam

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I would appreciate some CONSTRUCTIVE comments... Flubber seems willing, now I just need to get him the right game... as for the game you got, I don't know if I accidently renamed it or what, but that turned into a deathfest, with all but the Uni calling war on me, then several PBs coming out....

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Gah, maybe I should then better start prepare as Gaian?

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