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How many transcend game have you won? (Time out:0 days after 07-04-2004, 07:52)
Never won a transcend game.
Once
2-3 times
4-5 times
I'm a pro, at more than 5 times!!!
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Commy is offline Commy
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Mar 2004
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I rarely ever finish a game, three to be exact. Two on citizen on tiny maps, and one on Transcend on a the map of planet. I never finish games because I'm just to lazy to finish or don't have enough time. But I play quite a lot.

If you have won a transcend game, say how many and your best scores. Specs on planet and faction, and rules too, would be nice.

Just wanting to see how good everyone is, or actually to see how bad I am.

Commy is offline Commy
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As for me, my highest rating (can't find the score in my "SMAC records" document) is 155%, with only seven bases on the map of planet. Played as a custom faction:

+2 Growth
+1 Industry
-1 Police
-2 Morale

Free rec commons every base

Social Psych and Ethical Calc as starting techs

Note: don't ask why I made such a stupid faction, I really do not know.

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I'm still getting my gaming skills back into shape.

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I've won a bunch of Transcend SP, and some MP. I usually get sick of playing and win diplomatically, since my population has exploded relative to anyone else's, but sometimes I stick it out to transcendence. My highest score is in excess of 800%, and I could get much higher if I were willing to spend enough hours. That said, I don't consider it that impressive, since I use all the reasonable exploits like crawlers and pop booms.

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I've won a bunch of Transcend SP, and some MP. I usually get sick of playing and win diplomatically, since my population has exploded relative to anyone else's, but sometimes I stick it out to transcendence. My highest score is in excess of 800%, and I could get much higher if I were willing to spend enough hours. That said, I don't consider it that impressive, since I use all the reasonable exploits like crawlers and pop booms.


Pretty much ditto

I've won at least one game in SP on transcend with each of the factions just to prove I could. I also did each type of victory once just to check out the movies/endings that arise.

Other things I have done

1. Several variations of the one City Challenge-- IIRC I have done this with 3 different factions now but usuually its the university

2. Three or 4 times I have won the "switching sides" challenge. You take over the worst faction repeatedly (2-4 times in most variations) after bringing your previous faction to the top of the powergraph.

3. Twice I have won a conquest victory without ever building or retaining a base. This one is actually pretty easy with a worm faction and a tiny map with linked landmasses. If a faction is on an island its pretty much impossible.

4. Any number of self-imposed challenges including
-no crawlers
-limited bases
- no probes
- no trading techs
- vendetta with everyone
- no attacking anything outside your territory

etc etc.

I have lost once to the AI in the last couple of years. I tried Miriam with double blind research and tech stagnation. I got stuck on an island with room for 3 bases and couldn't get the WP or a boat.

Also I have completed something like 30+ MP games and duels and have won more than I have lost but am far from the elite. One game with buster of CGN fame humbled me and destroyed any illusions that I might have ever had about my skill level. I was actually happy to be second strongest but had to capitulate when he rolled the other 2 players

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Flubber is offline Flubber
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As for me, my highest rating (can't find the score in my "SMAC records" document) is 155%, with only seven bases on the map of planet. Played as a custom faction:

+2 Growth
+1 Industry
-1 Police
-2 Morale

Free rec commons every base

Social Psych and Ethical Calc as starting techs

Note: don't ask why I made such a stupid faction, I really do not know.


What do you mean, stupid-- THis faction should be a powerhouse. The free rec commons means no drone problems so the police minus is almost irrelevant and starting with ethical calc and +2 growth means you can be pop booming ridiculously easy-- heck demo planned gets you there without even building a creche

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Jan 2000
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What do you mean, stupid-- THis faction should be a powerhouse. The free rec commons means no drone problems so the police minus is almost irrelevant and starting with ethical calc and +2 growth means you can be pop booming ridiculously easy-- heck demo planned gets you there without even building a creche


You could even try the mythical Demo / Green / Creche / Golden Age pop boom!

Frankychan is offline Frankychan
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Couple times. Not really a "pro" but SMAC seems to always throw you a curve when you least expect it.

Won most of my transcends via Conquest Victory. Won one time Ascending, and once the faction I was allied to won and I got the Co-op.

It's usually the mindworms that take me out....with the Vendetta'd factions just cleaning up.

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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More than 5, but I'd hardly consider myself a pro. Most of them were on tiny maps where I simply steamrollered everyone else before they could get off the ground (SP, not MP). I've won a few by Transcendence, though.

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Something like 4-5 times. I've only played one SP game properly from start to end, and it took me something like a week or a bit more. I tried to transcend as fast as I could on a huge map, and there was a fair amount of micromanagement involved.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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Dozens of times. No idea how many, but I'm not really a pro either, I just know how to beat the AI. Recently I've started counting my minerals and ecs and improved my play a lot, making Transcend really easy unless I put self-imposed restrictions on myself, but at the cost of speed of play.

MP is where you see if you can really cut it as a SMAC player though.

-Jam

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Forgot to state which factions, settings, blahblahblah.

University-Ascent to Transcendence win.

Believers-Conquest Win.

Human Hive-Conquest Win.

Morgan-Co-op win (I don't count it).

Trithemius is offline Trithemius
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I've never won a Transcend game, although I have never tried. I don't usually play for "points" and tend to play "in character" which means cutting the AI breaks it probably doesn't deserve and running truly weird SE choices.

Oh, and I've only learned about the benefits of crawlers and pop-booming like mad recently.

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Actually, don't remember, SMAC(X) was quite for me the last two years. I know I can handle 5th rank (that one under Transcend, Librarian?), but that's all I remember.

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The one before Transcend is Thinker.

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Thanks, I'm for sure a Thinker then. I did won Transcend level on my marsscenario a few times. Small map, all land, 6 real factions and 1 nuisance faction.

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Haven't had time to finish a transcend game yet.

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For anyone with time constraints I recommend a one city challenge. Its a lot less timeconsuming and can show how you can win by simply grovelling for a while until your insane amounts of crawlers and trawlers allow you to out-tech everyone.

Its actually a simple game to play in some ways since so many issues you normally face do not arise

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Try the "one base without supply units" challenge to be a real man

-Jam

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For anyone with time constraints I recommend a one city challenge.


Sold. What are the guidelines for such a styled game? Is there a list of guidelines for other "challenges"?

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Try the "one base without supply units" challenge to be a real man

-Jam


Have you done this?? I think its winnable if you get a friendly neighbor . . . even more winnable if you allow yourself to capture enemy bases ( even if you have to dispose of them by turn end). Find a big friend and then work to ring yourself with them.

I find all smaller empire challenges easier if allowed to be a suck up to the AI. I find it toughest when I have rules that don't permit me to treaty or pact with anyone . .. Constant war ( combined with rules not permitting me to capture enemy bases) leads to a lot of attrition -- plus NO commerce!!!

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Sold. What are the guidelines for such a styled game? Is there a list of guidelines for other "challenges"?


yes-- There was a list of them on a thread here-- search OCC or challenges


My recommendation is to start out just trying to win with a single base. To be clear you cannot end ANY turn with more than one base. Try to transcend. Once you do that trhen move on to the more difficult challenges which have rules as to how many secret projects you must get, or may not permit yyou to EVER have 2 bases etc

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For anyone with time constraints I recommend a one city challenge. Its a lot less timeconsuming and can show how you can win by simply grovelling for a while until your insane amounts of crawlers and trawlers allow you to out-tech everyone.

Its actually a simple game to play in some ways since so many issues you normally face do not arise


Great idea. I may actually become brave and try this some time.

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I think the highest level I've won would be the Librarian... as Believers I think.

That was before I discovered this forum so I'm confident with you guys' brains to pick through, I'll play better.

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Yes, I noticed the bump.

Thanks Flubber.

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I bumped an old OCC thread of mine so you can see some variants of the "rules".

Really you can do it any way you want-- just set some rules and go for it

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The highest choice is more than 5 times? What kinda poor poll options are this?

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Poor ones

I just managed to LOSE a OCC on Transcend playing as Morgan (first mistake) when despite my huge tech lead, Lal was elected supreme leader by ALL the other factions together! WTF?

He did have 400 something votes to my 11 (or something) so its not like my opinion counted.

Reminder : Turn off diplomatic win for OCC games That was a waste of 3 hours

-Jam

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Really you can do it any way you want-- just set some rules and go for it


One of my objectives this decade is to try and win a game without the govenor.

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I just got my revenge with Lal's boys, trancending from my one little base, wedged between Deirdre, Yang and Mim. Cozy

-Jam

 
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