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Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 14-04-2004 13:48
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Now that is quite a bug.

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  Old Post 14-04-2004 14:11
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And it most probably effects the AI too. Strategy against the Datajacks: Gift them Pre-Sentient Algorithms become declaring war.

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  Old Post 14-04-2004 22:49
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And it most probably effects the AI too. Strategy against the Datajacks: Gift them Pre-Sentient Algorithms become declaring war.


Not meaning to nitpick... just want to clarify you meant 'before' not 'become'?

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  Old Post 14-04-2004 22:51
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When you reach +4 probe rating, it rolls over to...um...0 I think, or some negative number. This is a problem with the Datajacks, as you get +2 probe and free covert ops centers after Pre-Sentient Algorithms, FORCING you to run Knowledge.


Duh ignore my previous posting, I now get it.

Is there a way to correct this bug?

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When you reach +4 probe rating, it rolls over to...um...0 I think, or some negative number. This is a problem with the Datajacks, as you get +2 probe and free covert ops centers after Pre-Sentient Algorithms, FORCING you to run Knowledge.


Curiously, has anyone checked to see the effects of Miriam running Fundy with Covert-Ops center, a grand total of a +5 Probe. Or Roze running Fundy with Covert-Ops center, +6 Probe.
I assume those will all roll back to 0 as well?

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  Old Post 15-04-2004 02:56
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Roze wouln't run fundy, her ideology is Democratic. And i'm not sure the AI would build covert ops centres...the thing is, Roze gets them for free.

One way you _could_ correct the problem is to change the angels to +1 probe instead of +2

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Roze wouln't run fundy, her ideology is Democratic. And i'm not sure the AI would build covert ops centres...the thing is, Roze gets them for free.

One way you _could_ correct the problem is to change the angels to +1 probe instead of +2


Roze wont do Power SE, I don't believe anything stops her from doing fundy though.
And I am not specifically speaking about the AI, I was just curious about the effects.

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No, no no...not that Roze won't do power, she_can't_. And yes, something _does_ stop her from running fundy - ideology. Just like while Zakh _can_ for example run wealth, he _won't_ due to ideology, even though his aversion is fundy.

but as for non-AI. dunno. not very many people play the believers. I know that I havn't, so I wouldn't know.

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No, no no...not that Roze won't do power, she_can't_. And yes, something _does_ stop her from running fundy - ideology. Just like while Zakh _can_ for example run wealth, he _won't_ due to ideology, even though his aversion is fundy.


Why would Zakharov not run Wealth? I know his agenda is Knowledge, but I don't see anything that would prevent him running Wealth neccessarily (maybe it represents corporate-style ethics in universities, I know that some of the universities I have been too seem to be increasingly "wealth-oriented").

I enjoy running "unusual" SE choices (see my PS/Green/Knowledge/Cybernetic Human Hive for a different result from Yang's 'grand experiments' ) it makes the game a little more interesting to consider how the factions might develop from their starting points, I don't see them as always becoming carbon-copies of the stereotype.

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Yes, I understand the AI Roze wont use Fundy or PS. That is why I mentioned:

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And I am not specifically speaking about the AI, I was just curious about the effects.

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Yes, I understand that you were asking that. That is why I mentioned:
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but as for non-AI. dunno. not very many people play the believers. I know that I havn't, so I wouldn't know.

 
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