11-04-2004 08:41									#1
	Anyone Need Rise of Nation Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

while searching on ebay i stumbled across this copy of rise of nation and i thought that if someone needed it or one of their friends is looking to buy it. currently its at $.50 and there is like a day and half left on it. It says its in new condition and was bought recently and everything is included with it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MESSE%3AIT&rd=1

	13-04-2004 18:38									#2
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Only 50 cents. Something funny is going on.

I don't go for such deals because I know such cheap stuff comes with strings attached. Perhaps the CD is scratched or something.

People can lie about the condition of their items over the internet. It's so simple to type the words Ebay or Amazon wants to hear.

I don't trust buying stuff over the internet. I prefer to buy things I *can* see, such as in real world stores where I can actually see the condition of the box. I can also get a lot better feedback and info about the game itself from looking at screenshots and reading the blurb on the box.


I stay the hell away from Ebay. Too many shady stuff going on there, and you never know if hackers are lurking there, ready to steal your account and credit.

	14-04-2004 05:32									#3
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You can view their feedback and see if other people were satisfied with their dealings. If they are the type of people to lie about the condition of what they are selling, then others will have complained about it before.

	14-04-2004 12:16									#4
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Thats true, however, it still doesn't allay my misgivings about electronic purchases.

I guess I'm old fashioned, then. I feel more comfortable buying things I can actually see, touch, or smell. You can't do that at all over the computer.

	14-04-2004 23:41									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Sovereign I don't go for such deals because I know such cheap stuff comes with strings attached. Perhaps the CD is scratched or something. People can lie about the condition of their items over the internet. It's so simple to type the words Ebay or Amazon wants to hear. I stay the hell away from Ebay. Too many shady stuff going on there, :

Hope you are wrong there Sovereign, as I have just won a bid on E-bay for RON for £8+2.50 p&p. In the UK RON still sells for around £30 (although 'Game' had a special sale recently where it was £20)

I hope that when it arrives in a week or so, after my cheque clears, that it is in as good a condition as it was described on E-bay.

	15-04-2004 10:24									#6
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I do admit that sometimes Ebay and Amazon does work out, and things aren't half broken or "filled with sawdust".

I've had several bids go bad, hence my apphrension regarding both sites.

	24-04-2004 05:14									#7
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sometimes people will start the bid really low in hopes that it can get enough people to bid on it and drive the price up. that's happened to me twice in regards to a specific game

	24-04-2004 13:10									#8
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My copy arrived from the E-bay seller a few days ago, and it is in very good condition; with not a mark or crease on the little charts with come with it. I installed it last night and it is working fine.

2 Q.s:
1. It arrived in a DVD case and the manual is very light on detail. Was there nothing more informative with the original release?
2. I know from reading other posts here that I can slow down the speed of various things. What line do I alter to slow down the build speed of Wonders?

Thanks for any info.

	24-04-2004 20:06									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I can't believe nobody danced yet...

$0.50?

Gotta be a catch.

	25-04-2004 08:32									#10
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It ended up going for $4.25, so doesn't seem that suspicious.
They musn't have wanted the game anymore.

	27-04-2004 00:21									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

$4.25 sounds about right.

	27-04-2004 18:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Sovereign Thats true, however, it still doesn't allay my misgivings about electronic purchases. I guess I'm old fashioned, then. I feel more comfortable buying things I can actually see, touch, or smell. You can't do that at all over the computer.

Fair enough, but unfortunately I live where not all things are available to me. ebay is my FRIEND

I really hope that, when I get paid in a few days' time and I start looking to get RoN, I find it for something like this price. Haven't seen it in NZ for less than about $45US yet.

	27-04-2004 20:01									#13
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What would shipping be from the US?

I saw it at the second hand store for $10 here...bout 2 weeks ago.

Hell, if it's still that cheap I'll just ship it out to ya.

Last edited by UnOrthOdOx on 27-04-2004 at 23:51

	28-04-2004 20:08									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Will the next one be standalone at all (like the demo of it is), or is it an expansion?

BTW must play that demo - downloaded the 200MB+ thing, now I really should play it and post on my thoughts, since I don't think anyone else has.

	28-04-2004 20:38									#15
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200MB is just too massive for my little dial-up. If I get 24 hours to spare tying up the phoneline while trying to sell the house (aka not going to happen) I might consider it.

	28-04-2004 23:24									#16
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I have a CD of the demo... I'm lucky.... I'm also still debating whether or not to buy it.... it is a fantastic game, and addictive, though not as much as SMAX, but I'm not the fond of RTS... plus..... shshhhhh.... I'm absolutely horrible at it.... The computer will beat me seven times out of ten on level three difficulty or so....I'm a pacifist, and what more can I say.... The main reason I don't like it is because it doesn't give you the playing time of my TBSs.... a GalCiv, SMAX or even Civ3 game will go on for a couple days, even CtP lasts a day.... but a RoN game only lasts about an hour.... Its also the fact that the research tree doesn't seem that great to me... pretty much, it doesn't matter who you are or how many times you play, you research this then this then this... and build this then this then this.... just seems so... same compared to SMAX... mind you, if I wasn't obsessive in possesion of SMAX, I would snap it up instantly... And eBay is where I got SMAX and my second copy of SMAC.

	28-04-2004 23:45									#17
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Change the research to very long and expensive. Seriously. Spending more time in each age, etc, fleshes it out quite a bit really.

But, the AI doesn't exactly handle it as well as it does 'normal', though.

	22-05-2004 00:55									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Will the next one be standalone at all (like the demo of it is), or is it an expansion? BTW must play that demo - downloaded the 200MB+ thing, now I really should play it and post on my thoughts, since I don't think anyone else has.

Where can you find the demo? I'm considering buying this game..a demo would help me make a decision.

	17-06-2004 19:36									#19
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quote: Originally posted by smellymummy sometimes people will start the bid really low in hopes that it can get enough people to bid on it and drive the price up. that's happened to me twice in regards to a specific game

I saw a game like that once.... bid approximately $25 on it.... Someone with LESS THAN ONE SECOND REMAINING stole it from me. I was watching the countdown... I had the screen with 1 second remaining with me as the highest bidder at $1, the starting price. I refreshed and saw that someone else had outbid me.

I find it very hard to beleive that someone would risk camping for that absolute last second. I beleive the seller placed or scripted that final bid since mine was only at $1. So, yes, I think eBay has shysters on it.

But, I did get a copy of Civ I for $1 + $5 shipping. Yay.

And I got a little cart for groceries for $20 including shipping. When I received the box, the postage said $15 or something close to that amount, so the person selling me the cart made very little money on it, if any.

	11-07-2004 19:04									#20
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quote: Originally posted by dunk I find it very hard to beleive that someone would risk camping for that absolute last second. I beleive the seller placed or scripted that final bid since mine was only at $1. So, yes, I think eBay has shysters on it.

No, somebody just used a 'sniping tool', you put what youre will to bid and the tool checks what the currrent top bid is and automatically bangs your bids in just before the auction closes.

see: www.auctionstealer.com

It's also very handy if you need to be somewhere else when an auction is due to end.

	13-07-2004 18:15									#21
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To slow down the game:

Open data/rules.xml in notepad and find this line:

< ACCEL_RESEARCH value="1/1 speed

change the last '1' to the number on how much you want it to take to research (compared to default = '1')... setting it to 3 makes it take 3 times as long

In the same file go to the line:

< TECH_COST_FACTOR value="20 resources" / >

Change the 20 to how much you want it to cost (compared to default)... changing this to 40 highers the price 2x

	13-07-2004 18:18									#22
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

And as far as online buying goes:

I have been buying DVD's from Amazon for the past 6 months, and for now it has always worked, though I've only once bought something used...
Mostly I buy from cayman.us (I think that's the name, through Amazon)... they have always been reliable and fast (and cheap)

	17-07-2004 00:25									#23
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever No, somebody just used a 'sniping tool'

Well, they can take their "sniping tool" and stuff it up their backside. I would refuse to honor that bid if I were selling. Even if it meant I got screwed out of money.

	19-07-2004 03:08									#24
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Wouldn't bother me, money is money