14-04-2004 06:00									#1
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I'm writing an essay about allocating funds, and as usual, all source need to be refrenced. Now how do I refrence a fictional character with such a useful quote?

quote: You ivory tower intellectuals must not lose touch with the world of industrial growth and hard currency. It is all very well and good to pursue these high-minded scientific theories, but research grants are expensive and you must justify your existence by providing not only knowledge, but concrete and profitable applications as well. -- CEO Nwabudike Morgan, "The Ethics of Greed"

	14-04-2004 06:08									#2
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MORGAN, Nwabudike, The Ethics of Greed. (Morgan Industries, Morgan Publishing, 2225, p.389. ) In: Firaxis Games, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri - a Brian Reynolds design. Hunt Valley?, Electronic Arts, 1999. or something...?

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	14-04-2004 06:12									#3
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Very nice!

	14-04-2004 06:43									#4
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I would just cite it as an "electronic resource." Are you using MLA, Chicago, or what style for citing?

	14-04-2004 12:44									#5
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quote: Originally posted by #endgame I'm writing an essay about allocating funds, and as usual, all source need to be refrenced. Now how do I refrence a fictional character with such a useful quote?

You could try looking for real people who say this sort of thing? Executives, Henry Ford, Francis Fukuyama (maybe?), maybe even F. Hayek?

	14-04-2004 15:51									#6
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Quote Yang!

But seriously, I think you go by the "person", then the material quoted from, followed by the game, game publisher, studio, and year.

But for this thing, I would ask the professor on how he/she would like this reference to be quoted. AFAIK, video games do not have a citing method....closest thing I can think of is electronic format.....but even those vary from prof to prof and style to style.

	15-04-2004 10:50									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Quote Yang! But seriously, I think you go by the "person", then the material quoted from, followed by the game, game publisher, studio, and year. But for this thing, I would ask the professor on how he/she would like this reference to be quoted. AFAIK, video games do not have a citing method....closest thing I can think of is electronic format.....but even those vary from prof to prof and style to style.

And some supervisors might just fail to credit the reference because they think you are being slack. Some supervisors can be real jerks. :\

	21-04-2004 20:49									#8
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Hmmm, perhaps this is analogous to quoting a character from a script? What are the citing rules for referencing a quote from Shakespeare etc?

Or perhaps this:

[from http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1283316]
[MLS: Citing a…]
POEM or SHORT STORY in an ANTHOLOGY

Format:
Author of Story. "Title of Story." Title of Book. Name of Editor.
City of Publication: Publisher, Year. Page numbers of the story.
So, here it would be something like:

Morgan, Nwabudike. “The Ethics of Greed.” Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri. Brian Reynolds/Sid Meier.
Hunt Valley(?): Electronic Arts, 1999. (I dunno what you’d put for page number…)

	21-04-2004 21:16									#9
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Similar to my initial suggestion in other words.

	21-04-2004 21:43									#10
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But don't the author of a story needs to be a real person? I would have thought the author would be the author of the game.

	21-04-2004 21:52									#11
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu But don't the author of a story needs to be a real person? I would have thought the author would be the author of the game.

Indeed, that seems to be the main problem. And I can't seem to find any rules for citing specific characters from a work, which I maintain would be the ideal form to use.

	22-04-2004 01:19									#12
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Is there a voice clip for this? If so, would the voice actor have to be credited?

	22-04-2004 16:44									#13
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tech9.wav.

Actually, I finished the essay now anyway, but if any discussions about genetic engineering come up, then there are the quotes for
Genejack Factory
Bioengineering
Biogenetics
That would all be useful.

But thanks anyway.