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d=me is offline d=me
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Nov 2003
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Why does the peacekeeperes seem more rediculous than the believers? They attack for no reason.

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Feb 2001
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Because most any faction will attack for no reason if they're more powerful. or you're more powerful. or if they land next to you. or if you look at them wrong....

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Apr 2004
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Or if you are running some SE they dont agree with........

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Nov 2003
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I'm not on police state.

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Jan 2004
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  Old Post 16-04-2004 11:40
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But you're more powerfull and looked wrong to Lal.

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Feb 2000
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the peackeepers use planetbusters far too much

johndmuller is offline johndmuller
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Feb 2001
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Some factions respond well to threats and bluster.

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In the Kingdom of Hawaii (CPA Member)
Sep 2001
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Lal is a self-delusional psycho-babbler who believes too much in the precious U.N. charter.

He's such a hypocrite.....he's a bigger war-mongerer than Yang and Miriam put together!

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The leaves that are green turn to brown
Jul 2001
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Peacekeepers = t3h suxx0rz

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Sep 2001
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ROFL!

Trithemius is offline Trithemius
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May 2003
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*Trithemius waves his U.N. flag wildly!*

Patashu is offline Patashu
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The mechanical dragon
Feb 2002
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*Patashu beats Lal to death with a long metal pipe.*

Wow, that was fun!

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Mar 2004
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We assume the Peacekeepers would be....well....peaceful. That is only logical. But IIRC in the faction editor Brother Bal is set to "Sometimes" on the agressive attribute. The only one I can remember for sure that is set to "No" on the agressive attribute is Morgan.

Unfortunately, I am at work and can not post the file with all this info.

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Sep 2001
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Lal seems real stubborn to Pact up too, even when your running Dem and offering enticements. He's a fun faction to play, though..boom boom boom baby

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Mar 2004
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I think Lal is a retard. A quote from Lal:

"Give me 50 nukes, and I can bring peace to the world."

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Mar 2004
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I think Lal is a retard. A quote from Lal:

"Give me 50 nukes, and I can bring peace to the world."


Makes sense to me. Once the whole world is underwater then it will be very peaceful....even if it does hum and glow green.

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Feb 2001
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The only one I can remember for sure that is set to "No" on the agressive attribute is Morgan.

And Deirdre. If you look at the faction profile, Yes, No, and Sometimes settings correspond to Aggressive (yang, miriam), Pacifist (morgan, deirdre), and Erratic (lal, zakh, santiago)

Santiago_Claus is offline Santiago_Claus
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Mar 2004
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Some call it nation-building, some call it peacekeeping, but for Lal it's more like Prozac.

"I grieve for my beloved ... so let us mark this sombre anniversary with fireworks, that she might look down from the heavens at the light of a thousand suns, and remember ..."

-- Commissioner Pravin Lal, "Nuclear Medicine: Thermo ... Nuclear ... Medicine"

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May 2003
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We assume the Peacekeepers would be....well....peaceful. That is only logical. But IIRC in the faction editor Brother Bal is set to "Sometimes" on the agressive attribute. The only one I can remember for sure that is set to "No" on the agressive attribute is Morgan.

Unfortunately, I am at work and can not post the file with all this info.


Peacekeeping requires thumping people now and then.

Maybe Lal is a Civ in-joke, sort of like Gandhi with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

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Aug 2002
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They obviously belong to the 'Peace through superior firepower' philosophy of Peacekeeping. They also are not invading but 'liberating'. And sometimes they liberate you down to the quark level with PBs.

Then again, mabye they are a UN peacekeeping force (and their descendants). After years of restrictions, asinine rules of engagement and all the other idiocies the bluehats suffer from they find themselves on a virgin planet with NO RULES and no U.N.!

I'ld want to work off my frustrations by establishing a free-fire zone in the nearest 'protectorate', um, neighbour.

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Who wouldn't?

Patashu is offline Patashu
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Feb 2002
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Dead people can't wage war.

Impaler[WrG] is offline Impaler[WrG]
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May 2002
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Also note that most of you are probly playing Transendi difficulty which makes the AI rediculusly beligerant (often to the detriment of its ability to win). The designers probably though this would substitute for the fact that the AI is braindead. Only if your a mediocure player is the incressed agreesion a threat, for the truely skilled the hyper agressive AI simply ruins its own economy that much faster as you explode past it in every aspect of the game.

I bet Lal would be much nicer on the lower difficulty levels.

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Mar 2004
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Also note that most of you are probly playing Transendi difficulty which makes the AI rediculusly beligerant (often to the detriment of its ability to win). The designers probably though this would substitute for the fact that the AI is braindead.


Yup, or thinker either way the AI goes to war WAY too easily. Can you imagine if America went to war just because they didn't like some other country's socio-political system....whoops, never mind....

But yes the AI's over eagerness to go to war and drain its resources for little or no gain is a problem.

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Mar 2004
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The AI's only shot at winning is in the first 100 turns, anyway.

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Jan 2004
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So the best stragety during first 100 years would be to focus on building and if you have the military muscle to do so, turtle it out. If you don't have the military power to do so, keep appeasing AIs by giving in to their demands everytime?

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Aug 2002
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The best strategy for the first 100 turns is to build as many bases as possible while grabbing as many wonders as possible. If you share a continent, take a break from this strategy long enough to exterminate them.

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Mar 2004
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"Turtling" in response to an aggressive enemy in the early game is usually a bad idea.

Rover-rushing is usually a good idea.

Giving in to AI demands is usually a bad idea.

I agree with CEO Aaron about not sharing a continent, except where the opponent is very distant and either a natural ally or submissive. Trade income is something you want, but not at the cost of "HQ-local" high-efficiency real estate.

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