17-04-2004 15:38									#1
	Next generation fps Tired of ads?

Has anyone seen this brand new game? The game is just called .kkrieger and only exists in a beta version for now, but you can download the beta for free at mentioned site...


The recently released fps games is released on DVD or 6 CD's, while this one only takes 96 kb

Sure, it doesn't have many maps and doesn't have movies and such, but compared to the size of it, it's already got enough

It does require one hell of a computer though...

	17-04-2004 15:51									#2
	Tired of ads?

96Kb? How?

	17-04-2004 15:54									#3
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Don't ask me... I didn't program it

	17-04-2004 15:56									#4
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Surely it's a joke or a mistake. 96Kb sounds impossible.

	17-04-2004 15:59									#5
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Feel free to download it... I've already tried it... the graphics are very good

	17-04-2004 16:01									#6
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I'm suspicious.

	17-04-2004 16:08									#7
	Suffering from ads?

Have you seen those small 56 kb movies? They're also amazing, and from the same creators as far as I know...

	17-04-2004 16:20									#8
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It doesn't need any textures or music, which are usually on the CD of your average fps. It creates all these from simple code on the spot as you play, that's why the system requirements are so high. It's a clever little system, and could be used to reduce the amount of needed diskspace in games somewhat, but with people having relatively huge harddrives these days, size conservation isn't as important as pushing the sys reqs as low as possible. An average joe will have a 40 gig drive but not a GeForce 5950.

	17-04-2004 16:24									#9
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Ah I see, that makes sense. Personally I prefer game installs to be as big as possible to avoid using the cd. Most people have hard drive space as you say.

	17-04-2004 16:26									#10
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Even though it's not needed, I'm impressed on how they made this...

	17-04-2004 16:46									#11
	Put an end to popups!

Yes. It is impressive. But not as impressive as:

http://www.256b.com/

	17-04-2004 16:51									#12
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What's so impressive there?

	17-04-2004 16:57									#13
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Tube.

http://www.256b.com/demo.php?demoId=225

	17-04-2004 17:00									#14
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Ah... better take a look at it (Can't on this computer though )... this computer can't run the other game... just saw it on a friends computer...

	17-04-2004 17:08									#15
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The first game mentioned is very unstable though and sometimes quite hard to get of. Just so you know.

And like Kassi said, it's all real time rendered and nothing is loaded.

	17-04-2004 18:03									#16
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I think this is kickass, personally.

	17-04-2004 20:25									#17
	Got spare money?

it was 98.7kb, i feel disappointed.

	17-04-2004 21:32									#18
	Got spare money?

Yeah, completely shameless misadvertising.

	18-04-2004 04:18									#19
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ergh, on my computer that tube demo looks like a tube of huge pixels

The game was slightly better, but my gfx card still had trouble with it. Quit playing when I got stuck again in a door

	18-04-2004 16:24									#20
	Got spare money?

while impressive the last one of these i tried took quite a while to precalc everything. i'd rather just have to install 1gig once than wait a few minutes or more everytime i'd want to play.

	20-04-2004 11:50									#21
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quote: Surely it's a joke or a mistake. 96Kb sounds impossible.

Again with my friend Derek, but he has a beta of some sort of FPS, it don't think it's .kkreiger, its something different, but he did something, to where he can fit it all on a floppy, and still have space for like four more copies. I htink he did something with making itall raw code.

	20-04-2004 17:20									#22
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Doesnt this story make you think; what would the games look like today if someone in the 90's decided to actualy optimize their code instead of relying on faster and faster machines?

The difference between the first games on a C64 or ZX Spectrum and the latter games was incredible.... with the machines staying absolutely same.

	20-04-2004 17:40									#23
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That's what happens on consoles too and that's is why they are relatively better.
Not that I'm a fan of them mind you.

	20-04-2004 17:44									#24
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Consoles evolve too... but yes, the last games made to the PS1 was (I suppose) better than the first games made for it...

	20-04-2004 17:55									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus ergh, on my computer that tube demo looks like a tube of huge pixels The game was slightly better, but my gfx card still had trouble with it. Quit playing when I got stuck again in a door

I quit playing the tube demo when I got stuck in a door. I'd nearly killed the end of level busker, but got caught by a sudden rush of office workers at Monument.