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Ceroo would like to formally begin the first process of re-establishing the court- nominations.

Any nation may nominate any other, UN or not (however to prevent abuse and corruption only one position be 'poly account), and/or nominate themselves.

If you are nominated and do not wish to stand, then you may withdraw.

As before:
"The court will be primarily a mediator, in that if two nations wish to resolve a dispute, but will also act if there has been a transgretion by one nation, when, although it will not have direct power, it will give its recommendation to both nations. No one will be forced to abide by the ruling, unless they have agreed to take part in the mediation at the start."

If there to be ammendments or additions to this statement, then please bring them up so we can debate.

Ceroo would like to officially nominate Centralis for their good work in the previous court.

Current Nominations:
Centralis
Basus
Auldoninna
Guardinia

Withdrawals
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The Central Committee of the Jonchastan Congress of Neighbourhood and Workplace Councils hereby submits the Grand Duchy of Basus as our nation's nomination.

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Tooled-Up Sultan Al Mastif nominates Centralis.

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Auldonina feels we dont need a council, just let the nations sort them sleves out ...

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My great nation of Frankychanland listens to the benevolent leader of Auldonina, but nominates his ally for a seat on the Apolyton Council.

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Tooled-Up Sultan Al Mastif nominates Centralis.


Sorry... SECONDS Ceroo's nomination

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The People's Federal Republic accepts the nominations, though we are somewhat... hesitant... about support from Al Mastif.

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Guardinia supports the nominations of Basus and Centralis.

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Basus excepts the nominations with pride. We would like to thank our nominators for their trust. We would like to nominate Jonchastan, for they have remained neutral in the Franckychan conflict and because they have our trust. We would also have supported Guardinia but they have already involved themselfs to much in the Franckychan conflict.

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Guardinia agrees that we are currently a party in the conflict and as such can not be considered neutral, at least not in this matter. However, we do still hope that the crisis can be resolved in a peaceful manner.

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Jonchastan respectfully declines the nomination. While it is the Central Committee's view that a Regional Court is a progressive development for the nations of Apolyton, we are resolute in our belief that lasting, positive change in society cannot be enacted from on high. It would therefore be hypocritical of us to assume a position that gives us powers over the citizens of another nation.

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If it is not considered unfair to make more than one nomination, then Ceroo would like to nominate Guardinia as well as Centralis.

While we respect Basus' opinion, impartiallity to all situations is not possible- even if nominees are not involved with any present-day situations, who's to say they may not find themselves in similar circumstances in the future?
It is also believed by Ceroo that Guardinia would be the perfect balance to Auldoninna, should both get elected.

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The People's Federal Republic accepts the nominations, though we are somewhat... hesitant... about support from Al Mastif.


Hey, that's not fair! We no longer execute political prisoners! Their fellow citizens do it for us...

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Guardinia proudly accepts the nomination. If elected, we will be fully committed to this task whenever we are called upon. However, since we are clearly not neutral in regards to the Frankychanland crisis, we offer to voluntarily abstain from any ruling in this case, provided - of course - that Auldoninna does the same.

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First of all the people of Basus would like to complement Guardinia on their wise desicion.
Second we would like to propose some extra or alternative rules for the court.

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"The court will be primarily a mediator, in that if two nations wish to resolve a dispute, but will also act if there has been a transgretion by one nation, when, although it will not have direct power, it will give its recommendation to both nations. No one will be forced to abide by the ruling, unless they have agreed to take part in the mediation at the start."

If there to be ammendments or additions to this statement, then please bring them up so we can debate.


Basus would like to propose the following rules.

1 The court as mediator. All nations within Apolyton can bring a conflict, in wich they are involved or in wich they have a immediate intrest, before the court in a voluntary mediation procedure. All conflicting parties may apoint a advocate. This may be any Apolyton nation as long as it is not a court member. Then both parties choose one court judge. After the negotiations the ruling of the court is binding for both parties. The whole apolyton community will accept this ruling and if one of the conflicting parties chooses to lay it aside the whole Apolyton comunity will raise a embargo against the "rebel" nation. For further action i would like to point out a second function of the court.

2 the court as founder of basic and fundamental rights. In this function the court will explain certain words or practices. For example in a mediaton procedure the court could come across the word "atrocity". In it's founding function it could explain the meaning of the word and judge the weight such a practice should be given. If in a other procedure this word would come up the court can point back to the explanation given in a previous case and could use the criteria from this explanation in the new case. The court would create a sort of common law that has no direct implications for the Apolyton Nations but if a conflict would emerge then these rules would create clarity if such a conflict was brought before the court.

3 Last but not least parties must have a apeal option. I propose that if on of the conflicting parties thinks that the verdict or ruling is not fair the can turn to the full chamber of judges (5) for a new and final verdict. If parties object to one of the judges then the can expel him from the case.

4 Because the court is elected the Apolyton nations can always elect a new court that can undo the common law of the previous court. But the rulings of the previous court in individual cases wil stay intact.

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Despite beleiving that the court is not needed, the new government of auldonina are sending a represntative to see that the small nations of the world like frankychan are not walked all over..

We too will abstain from voting on matters that we are directly involved with , unless that is against our primary needs...

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We can assure you all that Guardinia's intentions are not to "walk all over" anyone. We are merely seeking to safeguard our own interests and protect anyone with a legitimate business in the area. Once we are satisfied that Frankychanland is no threat in that regard, we will be more than happy to stand down and back off.

However, be advised that seeking protection from illegitimate persecution is a legitimate business as far as we're concerned.

We propose that no further military reinforcements be sent into the area by any nation, so as to avoid any further escalation of the crisis. Then we propose to bring in observers from one or more neutral nations to observe and report back to the Court. To be more specific, we would like to have some observers from Basus look into the current situation in Frankychanland. In return, we are willing to allow observers from Auldoninna - or any other nation of General Frankychan's choice, including his own - to inspect our military forces and verify compliance with any agreements reached or rulings made by the Court. As a show of good faith, we offer to move our fleets away from the FCL borders as soon as observers are in place to monitor these waters.

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Basus is more then willing to sent a team of Observers to the area of conflict bu t only if Frankychanland gives it's consent.

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due to the extreme nature of the terrorist attacks, auldonina cant at this stage refrain from a militaryt build up in frankchan land.

once the terrorist activity is over we will hand over the land to frankychan to assume full control.

as part of this we request all the azanians that have fled frankychan be returned to frankychan to face investigations in regards to the terrorist activitys. if no evidence is found they will be free to live in southern frnakychan or leave if they so wish .

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Well, it appears we have an answer...

If these terrorist attacks are truly causing so much trouble and requiring so much force to handle, then Guardinia hereby officially offers to send forces to assist. Guardinian Special Forces could be ready to depart within less than 24 hours in the event of an acceptance of this offer. We can also assist with intelligence, including aerial reconnaisance and maritime surveillance. As you know, Guardinian naval and air forces are already operating in the area.

However, we find the request to turn back all Azanians that have fled Frankychan to be completely and utterly unacceptable. Our policy in this matter remains the same as before: We will not turn over a single individual unless evidence against them is presented first.

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Al levidence of the terrorist activitys and the locationsof their camps is currently being faxed to the Guardian Inteeligence office.

Three major camps are located within 200 miles of the guardian border on the mainland. If you look closely at our sattelite pictures of these camps, included in the faxes, you wil lsee they are highly advanced and may even have biological/chemical capacity.

Please send your recon air to look closer at these camps and once established precise details , feel free to take them out with your well trained ground forces.

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Information received. Investigations are underway.

[OOC: More details will be posted tomorrow. If there's anything in particular that I should know about, feel free to send me a Private Message. ]

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refer to map in Frnakychan/Azan thread showing approx locationsof camps based on informatio nreceived from Terrorissts captured and interrorgated .

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So, when do these nominations end?

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I think it is definatly time to end the nomiations and form the Court.

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Sounds good to me.

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New thread started for the Court Issues to be addresed in ...

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If its not to late the Hive nominates FrankychanLand for a position on the court, and we believe the General to be considering a recast of his vote due to the cancellation of the alliance between FCL and Auldoninna

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Noosland wishes to nominate itself for the Court.

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Due to recent events, FrankychanLand revokes it's nomination of Auldonina and would like to nominate itself.

 
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