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In real life which faction will win?
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d=me
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China matching the U.S.? Impossible. Technological superority just like the Aztecs against cortes.
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TimeTraveler
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quote:
Originally posted by d=me
China matching the U.S.? Impossible. Technological superority just like the Aztecs against cortes. |
Perhaps, but the technological difference between Cortez and the Aztecs was over a thousand years at the very least. The United States and China certainly don't have a difference in advancement anywhere near that level.
However, I do agree that it does look like technology could win a hypothetical war. The U.S. seems to be using it quite a bit more than China is.
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Comrade Tassadar
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If all nations were suddenlyh SMAC factions...
China would seriously triumph. I mean, they'd have a thousand 1-2-1 in each base, each base would have a perimeter defense, they'd be immune to inefficency so could run police state, they'd be fvcking HUGE...
The US would be in big trouble, because most of the world would declare vendetta in one to two turns. Ouch.
India would succumb to China.
Russia would capitulate to China.
Europe wouldn't stand a chance.
The only hope for others is victory by transcendence.
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d=me
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But this is real life. the F15 can take down like 30 j10s and the whole scale superiority like awacs and electronics. China is no match. Look what china has about 20 ships in total that can sail to the u.s. the people that thinks china have a number advantage against the u.s. have been playing too much games, In the real world, the zergs don't work.
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Starfarer
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The endless oceans of Darkness that surround us all...
Jan 2004
time: 05:35
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Sure they do. Bugs kick arse.
Of course,. the Cinese are far from bugs. and in any case, China would probably lose due to tech superiority... the thing is, what SMAC, what, in fact, no videogame can really show accurate4ly, is that tech disparity, even across small gulfs, can seriously unbalancee a war.
Were you aware that once, in Africa, a hundred British soldiers with guns held off a massive human-wave of the Zulu warriors? In SMAC, this is roughly equivalent to a bunnch of somewhere around 6-3-1s fighting off ten times their number of 2-1-1s.
Let's face it... in SMAC, ain't gonna happen... and these Brits were, as I recall, not in any sort of base... all they had was the high ground.
Games cannot accurately represent the political climate in real life, because of one serious concept.
Nobody in REAL LIFE wants war. Well... nobody who doesn't know 100% they can win with minimum losses. Unmless they're either a lunatic or overconfident, this isn't likely. Mind you, this isn't from any humanitarian poin t of veiw as much as a "If I charge my soldiers, and I lose half my armty, that guy over there is gonna kick my butt".
However, when you're a computer playing with computer people, you don't take into account things like how many OTHER enemies you've got, or their relative power scales. Nor do you have any sort of concept of "War is bad because it hurts everyone and strengthens those outisde of it". Nor do you have the "war is bad because I might die." idea.
Whebn you boil entire armies down to numbers and such, you also forget the acts of indfividual heroism, the self-sacrifie, and the brilliancee of some leaders. all of these affect battles.
And an incredible diplomat can keep two countries from annihilating one another. Can't do taht in SMAC, no matter how hard you try. After all, if Miriam really thinks Zakky's the Devil, what in God's name (no pun intended) is Lal REALLY going to be able to do abou it other than shove soldikers in her way? Is she going to care?
Nope.
Anyhow...
Ta.
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