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My Wife Hates CIV
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Michigan
Jan 1970
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That's it???!! Bad taste?? Half the threads here should be banned. It was not a hate thread against a group or person. What rule did I break???
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Napoleon Bonaparte
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New York
Aug 1999
time: 05:13
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What happened?
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Almighty ruler and Resident God!!
The more you know, the more you realize you dont know - Shep
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My Wife Hates CIV
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Michigan
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
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Can we no longer talk about plane crashes, starvation, war... on and on. Or can we pick up the topic again after they pull up the dead??
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What's this? Trouble in paradise?
*snicker* The "Ming will never close this thread" strategy worked just fine.
Gloat, gloat, gloat - 2 birds with one stone.
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Spider
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k-town
Jul 2000
time: 05:13
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Heh, Ming's "fickle finger of fate" strikes again.
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Gman14
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dear ming,
ALOT of the decisions you have made lately have been in my eyes, "in bad taste".
look, i understand where you're coming from, but i agree with MWHC. that thread was in no way offensive. people were voicing there opinions, not intentionally trying to be mean.
~Gman
EDIT: spelling and grammer errors.
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<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Gman14 (edited August 17, 2000).]</font>
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The thread title itself - The Russians beg for help. USA! They know who's best!!- is self-evident proof of why the thread was closed. No need at all to whine or contra-whine about the actual contents of the thread. The title itself was immature, insensitive, all too predictable considering who set it up - and in very bad taste. In a nutshell: Sickening, as I believe I was the first to point out. 
Count me as one who's glad that Ming stepped in and uttered the needed and necessary phrase Case closed! A bit late after 88 replies, but still...
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Gman14
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RAH-RAH he's our man!
yes, i agree with rah and his excellent choice of words.
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</font>Obviously becoming to sensitive to whining here.
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ming... i heard you used to be VERY opinionated before becoming a mod, what? did the dark side of apathy take you?
before you didn't care what others thought, you did whatever markG or danQ told you to regardless of what we(the majority) wanted. now all of a sudden you're there to step in and be our "champion" of stopping insenseativity? BAH!
in love(sarcasticly),
Gman
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SuperSneak
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In the land of the one-eyed
Jun 2000
time: 21:13
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Tough one, Ming.
You are in a very grey area in this situation...I am usually of the "Robert Mapplethorpe" type of opinion...if you don't like it, don't go see it. Freedom to post idiotic threads should be preserved by the freedom to either condemn them or ignore them. Censorship is difficult, because you are in the subjective realm of opinion, not the objective realm of fact.
I'd say this: let such topics exist...those who cross the OBVIOUS line into hate, etc. (whatever is considered against the rules) shall be given a punishment, defined by said rules.
For instance, you edited a profanity out of my "violence" thread. I don't have a problem with that...it was late and my judgement was bit blurry  . I thought it was a bit over the top, not completely corrupt...didn't bother me that you (or whoever) judged it inappropriate. Doesn't mean the thread didn't have validity of it's own.
I respect your judgements, generally, but you are really walking a minefield here...separate the people who overstep from a potentially valid thread...and let it continue.
Good luck...you'll need it. 
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"How ridiculous and how strange, to be surprised by anything that happens in life." Marcus Aurelius (Meditations)
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Gman14
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ming,
i didn't mean to question you're judgement. you had a reason for closing the thread, and i wished to know it. supersneak hasd it right when he said...
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</font>...You are in a very grey area in this situation...I am usually of the "Robert Mapplethorpe" type of opinion...if you don't like it, don't go see it. Freedom to post idiotic threads should be preserved by the freedom to either condemn them or ignore them. Censorship is difficult, because you are in the subjective realm of opinion, not the objective realm of fact.
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thats what usually happenes to all my threads, people don't like them and they let them die. in this case they posted they didn't like it signifiying they wanted it to continue. f they'd of just let it die, you wouldn't be in this mess.
thats my two freakin' cents worth,
-Gman
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Ming on 08-18-2000 06:25 PM</font>
When people blitz my e-mail and icq with complaints about a thread, you bet your sweet life that I sit up and take notice.
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You just confirmed what many of us had suspected for some time. You are in the pocket of a clique of anonymous complaint makers. How very American of you (in the McCarthyist sense).
Care to name who these gutless wonders are? I can guess but I'm sure others might be surprised who these snitches are, in their coward's castle of the private message. I can't believe you actually admitted they influence you!
That comment of yours in fact pretty much summarises everything that is wrong with the way you are approaching OT moderation. You should step down from the OT mod role. You are burnt out. Leave it to Matt - he says he doesn't mind the spam.
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Can someone keep this thread going? I want to change sides 
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My Wife Hates CIV
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Michigan
Jan 1970
time: 05:13
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I still say I did nothing wrong. I'm not saying Ming did the wrong thing, not saying he did the right thing. Just saying I did nothing wrong or against the rules of the site. And mouse, name calling is such the mature thing to do. Good thing we have you here to set the example... whoever you are.
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I agree with MWHC - he did nothing wrong. Sure the thread was crass, boorish and in very poor taste, but when are his threads otherwise?
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