24-04-2004 11:24									#1
	Iron Civer Tournament- Coliseum A Put an end to popups!

It's not how fast you can go
The force goes into the flow
If you pick up the beat
You can forget about the heat...


Game A players:

ricketyclik(Arabia) ric at actewagl.net.au
Paddy the Scot(Inca) paddythescot at hotmail.com
Aqualung71(Egypt) akwalung71 at yahoo.com
Masuro(Japanese) masuro33 at hotmail dot com

Crock Hunter: jwala at fastmail dot fm

All games are set to:
Tiny Pangea with 70% ocean
All victory conditions except wonder
Cultural conversions and Scientific Great Leaders on
Monarch level
Climate/Temperature/Age Random
Roaming Barbarians
No culturally linked start
and for good luck;
Turn Timer fast :-)

Last edited by Rommel2D on 26-04-2004 at 10:44

	24-04-2004 11:25									#2
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I'd suggest looking over the etiquette/exploit list to make sure everyone is aware of them and agrees on the options before beginning.

In particular:
1-2a
1-3a
1-3b
should be specifically agreed to. Likewise with the possibility of combat reports.

Other items that bear repeating:
Rules
11) All players expected to make simple 'sent' post in tracking thread each turn, listing year played, except when technical problems interfere.

and
etiquette/exploits
1-3 Players shall not exchange in-game information until they are represented on each other's foreign advisor's screen.
3-1 Players shall dismiss all pop-ups (when allowed to) at the beginning of their turn until the 'production phase' is complete.

Last edited by Rommel2D on 26-04-2004 at 10:45

	24-04-2004 12:28									#3
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bloody marvelous

thank you for your efforts Rommel2D

	24-04-2004 17:03									#4
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Thanks. I'm looking forward to starting the game

	25-04-2004 04:55									#5
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If ricketyclik and Aqualung71 crawl out of bed and acknowledge this thread soon, I'll send ric the turn forthwith. :-)

	25-04-2004 06:04									#6
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[crawling out of bed]

Duly acknowledged....

[/end crawling out of bed]

	25-04-2004 06:08									#7
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Ok, almost awake now.

Quick question to you guys - I've seen all of you around the PBEM threads, Paddy and Masuro seem to play quite a few PBEM games. I've only just started PBEM, so a lot of the "exploits" we've been discussing are pretty new to me. Do you find that there's a tendency to form early alliances with someone you already know and have played games with before, or are there efforts to remain impartial and play the game as it develops?

And what are your views on the etiquette guidelines Rommel has proposed....it all looks pretty agreeable to me - any differing views?

	25-04-2004 06:09									#8
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Where in Oz are you Aqualung?

	25-04-2004 06:12									#9
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Actually in Singapore Paddy, but moving back to Perth over the next couple of months, which is the same time zone. You're east coast?

	25-04-2004 06:15									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 Ok, almost awake now. Quick question to you guys - I've seen all of you around the PBEM threads, Paddy and Masuro seem to play quite a few PBEM games. I've only just started PBEM, so a lot of the "exploits" we've been discussing are pretty new to me. Do you find that there's a tendency to form early alliances with someone you already know and have played games with before, or are there efforts to remain impartial and play the game as it develops? And what are your views on the etiquette guidelines Rommel has proposed....it all looks pretty agreeable to me - any differing views?

Personally I see each game as a new / different adventure...

And in that way, alliances and issues stay in the one game.

As an example, I am currently in a full on war with Shogun Gunner in "2nd Coalition", a very tense diplomatic situation, a very nasty war we are getting into . Yet we are in several other games together. In most we have no contact, and in another we are tech allies, helping each other to dominate the world .

Also by keeping the alliances and issues seperate, it makes for far better games.

I hope you enjoy the tournament, and the PBEM experience. There are heaps of games going at the moment, and always games starting.

As they say, you have got to be in it to win it

	25-04-2004 06:17									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 Actually in Singapore Paddy, but moving back to Perth over the next couple of months, which is the same time zone. You're east coast?

well yeah, Sydney town at the moment. We are jitterbugs, we love moving around the island

Perth is a GRAND town. Bloody marvelous place.

	25-04-2004 06:24									#12
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I think that's a great way to look at it, and I hope most others do too. I guess I just have to get used to not being able to play 150 turns in one sitting....and having fellow players with a real brain instead of a bunch of complicated algorithms with loop holes! Do you come across many people who utilise some of the exploits that have been discussed?

Yes, I've been in Asia for 9 years now and I'm looking forward to going back home. I love Sydney too. You been in oz for a while?

	25-04-2004 06:35									#13
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39 year so far

most of the players you find here are here for a great game, so cheating / exploiting is not needed.

There are fast games and slow games - and the difference has nothing to do with the names...

if you find the right team combination you can get several turns kicked over in the one day... you just need to be tied to your PC, love Civ, and be ready to play as soon as the save hits your in box

	25-04-2004 09:55									#14
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3950 to rickety...

I'll keep the first two threads updated with occasional information specific to your game.

Quick reminder- if you would like to use your restart, speak up before you send on the first turn.

Last edited by Rommel2D on 26-04-2004 at 01:29

	25-04-2004 11:18									#15
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If I can butt in here with a couple OT questions of my own...

What is that under the Union Jack on the Australian flag and why isn't it there for New Zealand?

Also, I read something about Hug an Aussie or somesuch day coming up. Is this some sort of US media ruse, or a convoluted way to cop a feel of some Sheilas? ;-)

	25-04-2004 11:41									#16
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The Star under the Union Jack represents the states of Australia.
Each was an independent colony prior to Fedralisation of the Nation in 1900.

The rest of the flag has the Southern Cross Constelation on it.

Not sure what is going on in New Zealand... Strange lot ...

as to "Hug an Aussie Day", well as open and happy a people that we are, I would recommend you announce your intention first. Thus giving the bloke or gal the opportunity to stand back... the consequences could be rather unpleasant otherwise.

As to the whole "Hug an Aussie Day", I have never heard of it. Possibly an American friendship thing...

	25-04-2004 12:02									#17
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Probably an effort to keep the Australians interested in staying in Iraq for the sake of the alliance. Displays the usual finesse of international diplomacy of late.

Oh, and notice that the Federation Star is "under" the Union Jack

3950BC to Paddy the Scot.

Good luck gents

	25-04-2004 13:44									#18
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Union Jack is not there at all in a few years. And as for hug an aussie day....I agree wtih both Paddy and rickety. We're a cynical lot!

	25-04-2004 14:00									#19
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thanks Rickety


3950BC onto Aqualung 71

	26-04-2004 05:38									#20
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3950BC to Masuro. Good luck chaps!

We had a delay because of an email address mix-up, sorry. Full steam ahead now!

	26-04-2004 05:38									#21
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ok, resent to Aqualung as discussed

	26-04-2004 11:23									#22
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Sent. This is a 1.22 game, right?

	26-04-2004 12:38									#23
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v1.22 it is

	26-04-2004 14:47									#24
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3900BC to the Iron City.

	26-04-2004 15:59									#25
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onto Aqualung

	26-04-2004 18:44									#26
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Sorry Paddy, but it's not in my inbox. Akwalung71@yahoo.com

	26-04-2004 19:32									#27
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sorry about that

sent it to the other aqua I had set up

	27-04-2004 04:21									#28
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3900BC to Masuro

	27-04-2004 06:09									#29
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3850BC sent

	27-04-2004 06:38									#30
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I'll be around all day today if you guys want to try to get some pace going on this...