25-04-2004 02:53									#1
	Turn 30, 2590bc Suffering from ads?

Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.


Pre-Turn Actions



Military Orders
Offical SMC Thread: Exploration and Defence

1 Anthea the Blonde: N (pop the hut, open to debate) or W.
2 Ares' Boys: Escort settler.
3 Grog: North
4 Road Kill Warriors: S
5 Diomedes: Stay Foritied.

general plan: grog scouts north, blondie heads west/northwest, grog heads north of our start


Worker Orders
Roads R Us - build road


City Orders
APOLYTON
Begin construction of worker (for now - still up for debate and analysis. This build may change) - gk
Adjust work force as necessary with the barbarian situation (although please attempt to maintain a 5 shield production rate)


Settler - go to site red and found our second city!!!!!
(Will our General please see fit to escort the settlers to their new home?) -gk


Diplomacy To Be Completed


Any Other Things To Be Done
Request to not pop the goodie hut unless it appears that we may loose out on it as we have a settler and that would eliminate our chances of getting a settler or city from the hut. I humbly request that our brave exlplorer please go towards the western mountain to get a better view of the lands near our 3rd city site (near the floodplain and hills to the NE of Apolyton). - gk

Last edited by Inverse Icarus on 26-04-2004 at 05:40

	26-04-2004 05:12									#2
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I just tried to open the turn 29 save, and it appears that I have a corrupted copy. Can someone email me a new one. No idea what happened - but as it appears that Togas was able to play the save, hopefully it was just some stray electron on the internet or something that was messing me up.

	26-04-2004 08:22									#3
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Turn played at 2200 CDT with Arnelos, E_T, UBER, KLOREEP, OCT_X, TOGAS, WIA, and DONEGAL in chat. Lots of discussion this turn.

Orders were pretty much followed to the letter.

With a few changes.



WE MET PAL TO OUR NORTH

Military Orders
Offical SMC Thread: Exploration and Defence

1 Anthea the Blonde: NE (met a PAL warrior to our due north)
2 Ares' Boys: Escort settler.
3 Grog: NE
4 Road Kill Warriors: S
5 Diomedes: Stay Foritied.

general plan: grog scouts northeast, blondie heads north, road kill warrior will eventually explore to the NW.


Worker Orders
Roads R Us - begin build road


City Orders
APOLYTON
Begin construction of worker (for now - still up for debate and analysis. WF at 5 sheilds, 3 food surplus and 9 total commerce at the end of this turn.

Settler - went 6 towards the red site (see the poll on the scond city site), escorted by a warrior. (Ares Boys)

Diplomacy To Be Completed

WE NEED TO GET AHOLD OF PAL< CONMCB 25 will take the lead.


Any Other Things To Be Done
We did not pop the hut, and unfortunately PAL can get it next turn, This was a risk we were willing to take because we had a settler built. Obviously we lost this risk

Current scores:

PAL: 134
Apoly: 93
Shulgi: 99
Webringers: 88
CDG: 75




SCREEN SHOTS TO FOLLOW

Last edited by conmcb25 on 26-04-2004 at 10:09

	26-04-2004 08:22									#4
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Sent [EDIT] to GK[/edit]

E_T

Last edited by E_T on 26-04-2004 at 11:47

	26-04-2004 08:30									#5
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Sent E_T

Sent what?

	26-04-2004 08:30									#6
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 WE MET PAL TO OUR NORTH

This is not good news

3 on this continent
2 on the other.

	26-04-2004 08:44									#7
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The capitol region:




We Met PAL!!!!!!!!!



CDG area:



Top Cities and Stats:



Victory Status Screen:

	26-04-2004 09:25									#8
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ISSUES

Tech trade with PAL?

Not sure what they have, but we know they do not have Alphabet and Warrior Code. They start with Masonry and Wheel, neither tech we have.

They have Bronze Working and Pottery, or else we'd be able to trade those to them.

Interesting that they don't have both of CDG's starting techs. Good sign for us. We may be their first contact.

Also note that CDG did not sign a NTA over Warrior Code.

Warrior or Worker?

We'll build both in the next 4 turns, as APOLYTON has 5spt and will grow again in 4 turns. Do we do warrior first or worker first? As it turns out, doing worker first will not slow down warrior because Apolyton will get a bonus shield on the 4th turn after growth. The only real cost will be a loss of 4 trade due to the worker being built first. However, we'll get a slight jump on road and mine projects.

Does PAL being here change our game plan?

Yes. But how much? PAL is somewhat different from teams we've played against in the past, they will be far more agressive and less prone to cooperative diplomacy and tech schemes. They may target us or they may target CDG, but we can be assured that they will target one of us.

We still have the best early UU, especially for defense, which may push PAL to attack our buddy CDG. However, if they go after us, I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to choke us early and kill us later.

However, as of this turn we are STRONG to both CDG and PAL.

--Togas

	27-04-2004 03:03									#9
	Tired of ads?

PAL will change things depending on how much land is to our north and who has iron / horses. We will know the iron situation soon, and perhaps we can trade PAL for horses.

	27-04-2004 03:04									#10
	Full PM-box? Change here!

BTW - thanks to all of you who forwarded the save, unfortunately, the next save is already here so I probably don't need this one...