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Do you want to play the Epic Game or a Conquest?
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Epic Game 21 84.00%
Conquest 4 16.00%
Total: 25 voters 100%
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Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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You should rather sign up there

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So it is here that i sign?

This is where we're getting people to post if they are wanting do play the Feudal DG or not.


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You should rather sign up there

Actually, that's the thread for DG 3, this is DG 4.

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Eep! Chalk one more up for Epic, not that it matters now...

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I'm interested in joining the Feudal DG; but I shall wait for a couple of turns not to get illegal informations about the original DG (I'm Master in Command for the Yargonaut's armies)

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Feudal Sign Up
) GhengisFarb
2) conmcb25
3) Uber KruX
4) Octavian X
5) Esoteric
6) ZargonX
7) Aidun
8) UnOrthOdOx
9) Zone
10) TORARADICAL
11) GDatyaro

Maybe Spiffor

That's less than half who wanted to play an Epic game, perhaps we should start a Feudal DemoGame separate from the not Feudal DemoGame?

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I'm interested in joining the Feudal DG; but I shall wait for a couple of turns not to get illegal informations about the original DG (I'm Master in Command for the Yargonaut's armies)

I don't think there is any confidential information in the Single Player DemoGame we are currently playing. I am personally not a member of the Apolyton Team in the Intersite DG (I have membership rights at The Grenouille), and I have absolutely no idea of what is heppening to the Apolyton team.

So, if you feel like helping to save a hopeless day, there's no hesitation

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That's less than half who wanted to play an Epic game, perhaps we should start a Feudal DemoGame separate from the not Feudal DemoGame?

I think we should ask if we can simply find a set of rules we can all agree on. We're not too many already, and if we split further, there will be nobody left to play

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Ya, I wanted to sign up for the Feudal one.

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Also thought this was going to be a new DGame, as I am already on one of the teams in the intersite one being hosted at MZO.

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Indeed. We are preparing a new DG (a single-player one), and we are completing the old one in the meantime, as the specifics of the new one get decided.

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I PROPOSE (since no one is making ANY comments on the proposals in the thread to discuss potential rules):

Offices and Elected Officials
The President would be elected by poll vote as in the previous DG's and that office Holder is the one to play the game.

The Vice President would be elected by poll vote as in the previous DG's and that office Holder is the one to play the game in case the President was unable to.


Land/Tile Aquisition
As soon as we have 110% or greater number of tiles as we have players, each member is allowed to stake a claim on one tile. (So if we had 20 players we would hold a tile claim once we had at least 22 tiles, this means even the last member has a choice of tiles.)

There will be a Claim Thread with a screen shot of our territory and each tile labeled. Claims will be recognized as first come, first served in that the first to post a claim wins the title to that tile.

The thread should be started by the President/Vice President or by a person elected to start the thread.

(I would also propose at this point that an Assayer be elected who will track and handle further land sales from this point on.)

After the initial land claim, a newly joined member may submit a claim upon joining the game for a single unclaimed tile. This final granting of title of this tile is up to the Assayer though. (The reason for the last point is should a newly added tile have some strategic resource like Gold or something. It would be more fair for the government to auction that off than for some member to join and get that tile as his/her free tile.)

The Assayer may hold Land Auctions from this point on but should always keep some tiles in government ownership for newly joined members to claim.

Use of Land and Tile Production
Would follow the $MiniGame rules. I would suggest we elect a Market Maker for each good who is responsible for tracking the market in each trading session and they either be given a salary or allowed to receive a $1 fee per unit sold in their market.

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Sounds good, GF

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Looks good.
Maybe we'll have to iron some details out, but this is the kind of outline I like

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land claim: how shall tiles shared by a couple of cities be used?
I don't know about the "£minimap rules"; could someone have me enlighted?

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Sounds good GF. Still in for Feuda Gamel!! Feudal NOW!

When do you foresee a start?

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So in a Feudal Game, how do new players join in as the months go by?

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I guess it will be ready in about two weeks. In the meantime, feel free to vote in the polls setting up the game (since you want to play in the game, it is yours as much as anybody else's).

Also, feel free to discuss the details of the rules of a feudalism game

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So in a Feudal Game, how do new players join in as the months go by?

I would say they get to claim unclaimed land for free. And those who leave will see their lands become "unclaimed" as well (after some delay, like two months of inactivity or something)

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cool

sounds interesting

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Sounds good GF. Still in for Feuda Gamel!! Feudal NOW!

When do you foresee a start?
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Later today would work for me.

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Coo. Sounds good. Also I think that more of my Noitazilivic members may be joining soon.

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land claim: how shall tiles shared by a couple of cities be used?
My suggestion is that someone in power attributes tiles to cities, so that they don't get shared. The oldest city has the priority. Ie, if City2's radius encompasses two tiles that are also in City1's radius, City1 gets an authority on them, and the owner of the tile votes on City1's issues.
City1 may want to "lend" the tile to City2 if useful, but City1 keeps the ownership on this tile.
Keep in mind this is only my suggestion. I hope GF will open a thread dedicated to discuss, so that we iron out the details of the Feudal DG.

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I don't know about the "£minimap rules"; could someone have me enlighted?

The $ minigame is something that was based on the DG, but had no impact on the political decisions. Basically, players said they owned land, and they said they sold the goods produced by this land (thus creating a whole economic system).
They earned money that way, that they could use to buy more land, or to buy (ficitional) improvements on their land, bringing them more money.

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Is there enough leeway in the Feudal concept that if you don't want to deal with those specific ownership concepts you don't have to? And could you be President etc. and not have to deal with it?

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land claim: how shall tiles shared by a couple of cities be used?
I don't know about the "£minimap rules"; could someone have me enlighted?

If a tile falls in multiple citys' radii it would have a vote in all those cities elections.



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Is there enough leeway in the Feudal concept that if you don't want to deal with those specific ownership concepts you don't have to? And could you be President etc. and not have to deal with it?

No you don't have to own tiles, there are a lot of other ways to be involved, check out the discussion thread.

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This feudal Game sounds interesting, although I don't really understand how it works yet, but I will soon find that out when we get started

So sign me up.

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Feudal Sign Up
) GhengisFarb
2) conmcb25
3) Uber KruX
4) Octavian X
5) Esoteric
6) ZargonX
7) Aidun
8) UnOrthOdOx
9) Zone
10) TORARADICAL
11) GDatyaro
12) Tarquinius

Maybe Spiffor

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Feudal Sign Up
) GhengisFarb
2) conmcb25
3) Uber KruX
4) Octavian X
5) Esoteric
6) ZargonX
7) Aidun
8) UnOrthOdOx
9) Zone
10) TORARADICAL
11) GDatyaro
12) Tarquinius

Maybe Spiffor




Don't like it.

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well they have a great group for their game, and I for one wish them well in their endeavour.

sure am glad that the same group are willing and passionate for our next Democracy Game

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Feudal Sign Up
) GhengisFarb
2) conmcb25
3) Uber KruX
4) Octavian X
5) Esoteric
6) ZargonX
7) Aidun
8) UnOrthOdOx
9) Zone
10) TORARADICAL
11) GDatyaro
12) Tarquinius

Maybe Spiffor

Not theViking

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i thoguht of signing up , but it looked a bit complex ... but maybe i shoudl give it a go and learn !!!!

 
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