08-09-2000 00:22									#1
	Forum Changes Social Conservatism? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Is it just me, or are many changes implemented to the forums in any way instantaneously derided as ridiculous, killing the forums, horrible and fascist, etc. at first, but after a few weeks/months the changes are so ingrained that people will fight tooth and claw to keep them?

Ex 1. The new, blue . Literally everyone (well, ok, only about 95%, colse enough) wanted the old one back right after this one was implemented. Now, I'm sure most of you would agree, we have grownused to this one and wouldn't want to lose it again.

Ex 2. The eight hour thread posting restriction. Now, suddenly, a lot of people are speaking out for it. Do you guys remember how it would definatelly kill off the OT for all time just a few weeks ago?

Are we like the americans with their dollar bill? Are we a bunch of socially conservative, close-minded vertical thinkers, unable to try new things?

<font size="1" face="Arial,Helvetica,Helv" color="DarkOrange">(Ming: move this to the Apolyton forum if you want. I was going to post it there first but then thought that it wasn't actually raising any specific issues, more like a community status question, and that it shouldn't clutter up there. It was a tough call though.)</font>
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by The Call of Snapcase (edited September 07, 2000).]</font>

	08-09-2000 00:37									#2
	Got spare money?

Gee, using small reverse type makes it hard for an old man like me to read it.

As you suspected, this really belongs on the Apolyton Forum. It will appear closed here, but will be available for comment there.

Thread Moved!

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	08-09-2000 00:42									#3
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

<font size="1" face="Arial,Helvetica,Helv" color="darkorange">See, I thought that might annoy you! I had it in a much more pleasant blue colour and a larger size originally, but that wouldn't have been hard enough to read. I'll try<font color="cream">Cream Coloured Text</font> next</font>

	08-09-2000 01:10									#4
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Man... that's even tougher to read

I think that in general, people are always opposed to change. Even if the change is for the better, people lose there "comfort" factor. Many of us spend a lot of time on this site, and whenever something is different, it annoys us. Now granted, I'm one of the old farts, and maybe that's just me talking. But, I think most people fall in the category of hating change.

	08-09-2000 03:08									#5
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Quite right, Ming. Remember the need for someone to walk in front of the then new-fangled automobile with a red flag to announce its approach? Remember when the need was abolished? Remember how you and I objected on the grounds that it would bring about the end of the world as we knew it? Weren't those the days?

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	08-09-2000 04:23									#6
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

You may have a point here. Take the "Who's online" add-on f.e. When it was first implemented, there were talks about the end of privacy, the arrival of the Big Brother etc. I, being more materialistic, was afraid that this would make Apolyton even slower, while being effectively useless. Now I can't imagine what I'd do without it...

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	08-09-2000 04:26									#7
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Now, now you younguns - the real changes that we all opposed were when they tried to float iron ships of all things - people are so stupid!!!
Oh and Snapcase - your cunning stunt is foiled by the simple expedient of 'selecting' the offending print - it is then easy to read (even without my monacle!).

Good civin'

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	08-09-2000 05:00									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Turn it up, SG1, I opposed fire when it was first invented. More than that, I objected to the Big Bang on the grounds of noise pollution.

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finbar
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	08-09-2000 14:44									#9
	Full PM-box? Change here!

'Cunning stunt' SG1. I'm so pleased you said that one right

	08-09-2000 15:38									#10
	Tired of ads?

Fortunately PH I'm not given to involuntary Spoonerisms.
(999 and counting ... )


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"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
"The Great Library must be built!"