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bipolarbear is offline bipolarbear
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OOh, we coulkd mesh this with those hero creator threads that pop up in th OT forum!

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Did you ever know, that you're my heeero?
If this idea is working out it seems a bit like being a kid again, playing with your action figures and battling it out. Good fun.

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What are the baddies like?

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quote:
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Could those who's got the game please post a screenshot of their hero?

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* Adagio points at the above post

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I third that proposition.

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Be more specific.

What do they look like, how do they fight?
Group tactics or solo?
weakest strongest
any really cheap guys?
all that etc.

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Sorry, been playing too much at home and actually having to work at work

I'll try to grab some screenies tonight but there's a whole bunch on the review sites. I've made at least 15 heroes and scrapped half but I can take pics of the ones that made the cull

The street gangs have a range of thugs that use pistols, shotguns, smgs, rifles, fists, baseball bats etc to hit you with. The difference between Hellions, Skulls, Lost, Tsoo, Outcasts and more is in the plots they are involved in and the type of powers they use. In the teen levels the lieutenants start displaying superpowers - shockers fly and have electro attacks. "Bricks" can hurl boulders and smash you about. All the bosses have superpowers. Hellions tend to be fire based, Skulls have dark/death attacks etc. Tsoo Sorcerors appear around level 15 and have group healing and group defence powers that they use very effectively if you're not keeping them running in fear of their life.

The vahzilok (undead) have zombies that can spew acid, zombies rigged to explode, reapers that shoot you with sedative darts to slow you and mortificators that use dart guns and can reanimate fallen zombies, about their only group skill. Dr Vahz himself is the first arch-villain you can encounter if you persue the right mission chains.

The 5th Column (nazi) have gunners, grenadiers, flamethrowers, riflemen, miniguns, close combatants and at higher level get all sorts of high tech stuff like robots.

The Circle of Thorns is a bunch of insane magicians. They are usually found performing rituals in secluded spots at night. The early mages have limited powers to attack, drain life and explode themselves. Their guards attack physically and you have to be careful to take down the mages before their guards or they go into suicide bomber mode. The more powerful mages get very nasty paralysis attacks.

The clockwork are mechanoids that have electrical attacks and the only group so far to have flying minions.

A typical group suitable for one hero is three minions of your level or one minion and one lieutenant (who will 'con' one level up to represent his increased powers and health.) A boss your level will con at +2 levels and is unlikely to be killable without the use of one-shot inspirations and hit and run tactics. If you take a group into a mission it will scale up the number and level of opponents appropriately.

The main difference from games I have played in the past is the mob instinct for self preservation. Pile into a bunch of thugs on the street and you often see one of them start running immediately. Cast an area spell like Rain of Fire and all but the berserk will sensibly flee out of its effect before deciding whether to keep fighting. Chasing down runners is a little frustrating if you are a melee fighter because you need to edge ahead of them to get an attack off, but it works pretty well nevertheless. Hit the minions before the boss and you will see the boss use healing or defensive powers if they have them. Best of all, you can if you wish spend most of your life on missions, not just beating up random mobs for XP. Leave that to those who insist on powerlevelling past the fun storylines....

Combat is more interactive than other games because there is no default attack. Every move has to be activated. Okay you can select one of your attacks to 'auto' but I don't find it helpful. Most fights are still a case of pressing 1,2,3,1,1,2,1,3,4 but it feels better because you're often running around thumping villains on the move and managing your stamina bar, not just standing glued toe to toe with something too stupid to do more than chew on your leg until it expires.

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Phoenix Flames, Fire/Energy blaster

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Paladin Prime, a melee scrapper using claws

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The Masticator, a stone/stone tanker

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Deadly Dark, a dark magic defender

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Nice

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sweet

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What's a good newbie archtype to make? I'm thinking of getting this when I get regular employment.

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It depends on what you think you will enjoy most. Blasters are the "wizard" type - kings of damage but fold like a wet rag in hand to hand. I personally love playing one and find it easy to solo and very useful if you group. If survivability is more important, both scrappers and tankers can mix it up with the enemy more comfortably. You can get to level 5 in an afternoon of play once you are familiar with the system so I have tried out a lot of types to at least that level before concentrating on being a blaster most of the time.

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I quit playing for reasons of work sunday morning at 8:50 am eastern

I am a level 16 Gravity/FF Controller on Victory

name of Dr Gravitino

part of the supergroup Field Theory

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those are pretty cool heroes

If only there were time to play...

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It depends on what you think you will enjoy most.
The characters I'm most interested in making my version of are Storm, Batman, & Magneto. What archtypes would these be?

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Any information on the villains expansion? I noticed that it has it's own forum on the official website already.

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So is it possible to get all of your power form a distant planet called Oa, from some really smart blue guys, and maybe have it be wek to only yellow things? Just wondering.

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Download the acrobat format manual if you want to see all the powersets (its too big for me to upload here.)

Its certainly possible to come close to Storm and Batman, perhaps harder for Magneto. Batty could be a scrapper or tanker, depending on whether you see him as more offensive or defensive. Natural or tech origin for his trained physique and gadgetry. Storm would probably be a mutant defender with storm summoning & electrical powers. Magneto is trickier. There are different sets for kinetics, gravity and mind control so it would have to be a question of which powers you wanted to make primary.

I don't know anything about the Villains pack except what the website mentions. I'm not a PvP player so I'm enjoying what we already have

You can get your powers from one of 5 origins: Natural talent, Science (experiment accident etc), Tech (gadgetry), Mutation and Magic. Its up to you what backstory you invent to elaborate on that, but the only power weaknesses are written into the set, i.e. mind control sucks against robots

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What's a "defender?"

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I think the defender was the 'healer' for the team... could be mistaking though... check out the quick-start guide on the site...

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healer or buffer

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[Place Holder Name for Batman type character]

Origin: Natural
Archtype: Scrapper
Power set: Martial Arts, Super Reflexes

[Place Holder Name for Magneto type character]

Origin: Mutant
Archtype: Controller
Powerset: Gravity Control, Force Field (Figure out how to fly)

What do you think of these build? Also what names would you suggest?

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Defenders have a combination of weaker blaster powers and some ability to improve group performance or weaken enemy performance. For example a dark/dark defender can drain the enemy of accuracy and strength, blast them for damage, heal themselves and nearby friends by draining foes and resurrect a friend by draining foes. The empath is the only defender that really concentrates on healing. Some people insist on them but I find all the rest just as good. If you don't get hit because the enemy goes down fast or is weakened, you don't need healing.

Names are tricky because you're competing against thousands of other heroes. To get Phoenix Flames I went through half a dozen Phoenix variations before one was accepted

One thing you are not supposed to do is choose both the look and the powers of a true comic book hero. So your guy with batman like powers should not try to imitate his costume (there's no bat ears or bat symbol anyway) or go by names like The Bat. How rigidly this naming/look is enforced I could not say.

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quote:
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One thing you are not supposed to do is choose both the look and the powers of a true comic book hero. So your guy with batman like powers should not try to imitate his costume (there's no bat ears or bat symbol anyway) or go by names like The Bat. How rigidly this naming/look is enforced I could not say.
I only want the powers anyway.

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i love this game. simply because there are only two types of items you can ever get and no crafting; simplifies it nicely.

anyway, i usually play on the virtue server as alex lee (lvl 8 rad/rad def) or sidney brewster (lvl 11 grav/kin ctrl).

maybe i'll see some of you around.

 
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