30-04-2004 00:42									#1
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OK, just a little thread to give an easy place to link up to my recently complete scenario, Kaiser.

A chance to slog out WW1 (and beyond) without the inconvenience of rats, mud and Mauser fire!

The game and sounds zip can be found here!

http://cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/civ2/viewforum.php?f=81

Check the Kaiser thread, second page - Follow the standard CIV2 installation procedure.

Make a cuppa of good Brit tea (or fine German coffee) and enjoy!

	30-04-2004 00:44									#2
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And my esteemed thanks to the lads of the 1st Poly regiment, for their massive help!

Attachment: kaiser-cheers1.jpg
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	30-04-2004 01:34									#3
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Have you submitted a civgroup newsitem?

	30-04-2004 02:47									#4
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Yes he has and it will be going up tonight.

	30-04-2004 04:11									#5
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Groovy - glad you got it, Harry!

	30-04-2004 08:59									#6
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Looks super!

Parts of the Advice file are hilariously cynical.

Recommend minor spell check of Advice and Pedia files.

EDIT:
Sorry to have to report this Curt, but Events may be in error if Berlin is captured by the Russians or Petrograd is captured by the Central Powers. I think the minus signs in front of the reward amounts are wrong, they penalize the victorious side rather than the losers. In the rest of the file the losers are consistently penalized.

This file could also do with a quick spell check and edit.

Last edited by AGRICOLA on 01-05-2004 at 01:03

	30-04-2004 09:47									#7
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The Great Enemy Ace has spoken:

http://apolyton.net/civgroups/news.php?s=&civgroupid=55

	30-04-2004 12:31									#8
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quote: Originally posted by AGRICOLA Looks super! Parts of the Advice file are hilariously cynical. Recommend minor spell check of Advice and Pedia files. EDIT: Sorry to have to report this Curt, but Events may be in error if Berlin is captured by the Russians or Petrograd is captured by the Central Powers. I think the minus signs in front of the reward amounts are wrong, they penalize the victorious side rather than the losers. In the rest of the file the losers are consistently penalized. This file could also do with a quick spell check and edit.

Damn those bugs!

I have learned not to rely on MS spell checker - I will use Atlantis and go through the text files...

Cheers for the heads-up, Agricola!

	30-04-2004 12:50									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Tuttle The Great Enemy Ace has spoken: http://apolyton.net/civgroups/news.php?s=&civgroupid=55

Thanks, Harry!

That is really great stuff!

	30-04-2004 15:42									#10
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Yikes! You've got a lot of stuff planned there. Do you even have time for anything else?

	01-05-2004 02:53									#11
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I will stretch these scenarios out over the next 200 years.

But seriously, I have some old. 'never seen by the web' scens that I plan to reinvent soon!

	01-05-2004 02:56									#12
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PS
The CDG link is now up to date!

	01-05-2004 08:59									#13
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I've played through several turns and so far it looks and plays great, and as someone in the other thread said, I like how makes the Schlieffen Plan the most likely route to success as the CP. One question though: What's up with the city names? It seems like you wanted to have the cities be in their native tongue, but in the case of Russia it looks like you used German names (I could tell you how they'd be transcribed from Cyrillic), and the transcription isn't standard for Chinese cities, like if you use Peking, you should also used Tsingtao (And Qingdao for Beijing). Just nitpicks though. And it seems like there were a couple other issues with the Events file, like the event for taking Belgrade only being triggered if it's held by the Rebels. Anyway, I just thought I'd bring these things up. Overall it looks, feels and plays great, I can't wait for the pbem to get going.

	01-05-2004 09:02									#14
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Yeah, what about that PBEM? We need a Free Nations player...

	01-05-2004 09:04									#15
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Hey Curt, awesome scenario but I noticed one thing. A regular submarine has an attack of 19 while the "U-boot" had an attack of 11. Seems like a mess up to me. Should the submarine have an attack of 9?

	01-05-2004 17:14									#16
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You know what they say about bugs, they breed in dark corners!

I'll get on these ASAP!

	01-05-2004 17:20									#17
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While checking I just noticed, there is no Belgrade event?

Can you list the event you mean, JamesJKirk?

	02-05-2004 01:35									#18
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A few more things I noticed:

In your game, Greenland belongs to the Entente while in reality it belonged to Denmark. Perhaps you should give Greenland to the Free Nations?

The Krupp mortar has zero movement but an attack of 10.

The American troops have an attack of 5 while all other troops have 2 or 3. I'm no expert on WWI but I've been taught that our army was poorly trained and equipped prior to the war.

The French troops have an attack of 3 but in reality it should be -3. (J/K)

Anyways, you did a very good job making the scenario. Dictator Kaiser is THE best WWI scenario I've ever played.

	02-05-2004 03:19									#19
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Greenland was originally given to the free nations, but someone told me to change it to Entente!

The city has minimal influence...So I wouldn't worry much about it.

The US troops are one of those units designed to break the trench deadlock, hence the inflated attack.

I will check the Krupps gun movement...

Now come on, France fought hard in WW1 - and in WW2 only were caught out by mobile warfare!

I am glad you enjoy it, Riesstiu!
I will make a few adjustments based on your advice!

	02-05-2004 06:45									#20
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@Curt - Never mind, the Krupps gun is fine. I don't know what I was thinking...

	02-05-2004 07:19									#21
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Has anybody else noticed that the Ottoman Empire uses recon planes instead of infantry to defend cities?

	02-05-2004 11:32									#22
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the event is toward the beginning. I summarized it from memory, sorry, but if a Rebel unit is killed by the CP there's a popup about Austrian and Serbian troops fighting. Which probably would make much sense, right?

	02-05-2004 19:13									#23
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Aha!

Yes, that is changed now, it was a holdover from when the Balkan cities were owned by the Barbs!

	02-05-2004 21:59									#24
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Why does the Prussian Infantry upgrade to the bomber with the discovery of Schlieffen Plan?

	02-05-2004 22:23									#25
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The 'discovery' is really the end of the Schlieffen strategy - The German Inf and Gotha are then available in the aftermath.

Or in 1915 - Whatever happens first.

	02-05-2004 23:26									#26
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Should Trieste perhaps be a sea port in your scen as well as in RL? IIRC, the Austrians based their rather small fleet in Trieste and carried on fairly active naval skirmishes with the Italians.

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One could be easily added, I'll do it today...

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Sorry to heap more work on your shoulders but it appears that my post about Trieste was just the tip of a major iceberg. I'm playing Germany/Deity/Dec. 1914 and have encountered problems in Australia, Britain, Greece and Africa.

After limited checking, it seems that many coastal cities that one would expect to be able to build ships cannot do so while at least one, Milano, can do so despite being inland in RL. As I haven't been able to find any pattern as to which ones can and which ones cannot, I assume that this is not intentional on your part. The problem exists along all coastlines.

I'm simply going to fix my last save so that the shipyards in Stettin and elsewhere can get back to work.


EDIT
Complete check with CivCity shows that many coastal cities are unable to build coastal improvements.
As a Canadian and ex-Torontonian, I must point out that at the time of this scen all the Great Lakes supported thriving fishing industries. The lampreys, zebra mussels and other European imports only showed up much later.
Furthermore, Great Lakes shipyards have built much of the large fleet of Great Lakes freighters as well as submarines and other naval vessels.

Last edited by AGRICOLA on 04-05-2004 at 16:59

	05-05-2004 08:16									#29
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Anyways, Curt, any ideas on how to best tailor this to MP?

	05-05-2004 09:30									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Riesstiu IV Has anybody else noticed that the Ottoman Empire uses recon planes instead of infantry to defend cities?

You're right. Recon Planes have started showing up in Allied and Italian cities. In my opinion, they represent a complete waste of resources when built by AI. The AI doesn't know how to use them.