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MrWhereItsAt is offline MrWhereItsAt
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Will you be dealing with PAL yourself in chats, and if so how will you be treating them/attempting to keep them friendly? It not and you are leaving it up to the FAM, what stance would you like them to put to PAL on Poly's behalf?

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Ameteurs...

1: name 3 positive qualities your opposition possesses that you do not.

2: What do you think your biggest strength is?

3: Should you lose, what are your plans in Apolyton?

4: Given the choice between Banana and Grapes, which would you choose and why?

5: What's your favorite paper?

6: What do you see as the most important job of a consul?

7: What are your feelings towards tech points?

8: Favored method of war?

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Originally posted by Arnelos
Let's say that CDG knows it's coming. They're going to face both Apolyton and PAL. They aren't the best builders in the world. The best they could hope to do is attempt to rush us... and by the time we refuse to renew the NAP, our REX should be complete and we'll have hoplites up the wazoo.

Sure, we might lie to them before that, but we don't have to actually break an agreement with them. The reason is that this isn't going to be a fair fight.

So up until the point our REX is complete and we have sufficient hoplites to stop them, we have to lie, yes. Once that point is reached, I see little use in playing the game any longer, assuming we can rely on PAL.


What is your definition of a "complete REX".

Are you talking the initial core and first ring? Or something more substantial?

We NEED to be ready to start choking operations at a minimum when the Republic deal is over. Choking can begin as simply as cutting off tech trading, but will eventually have to progress to a more substantial commitment.

We have hoplites, we are ahead of CDG on the power graph, we need to STAY that way and prepare to begin a choke when the research deal is complete.

If we are ahead on the power graph AND STAY THAT WAY, we should be able to repell any kind of retaliation, especially before Invention.

So we will need to choke as we are building up to make sure CDG is ripe for a kill when we sledgehammer them.

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Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Will you be dealing with PAL yourself in chats, and if so how will you be treating them/attempting to keep them friendly? It not and you are leaving it up to the FAM, what stance would you like them to put to PAL on Poly's behalf?


Having me in charge of a chat might not be the best idea. Whereas I would try my damnest to attend any chat with PAL (sched or impromtu), I would try to stay silent unless a decision or confirmation of something needed to be made in chat immediatly. Behind the scene, I would be talking the ear off the FAM reps head. Now if PAL would then prefer to deal directly with me instead of the FAM, I would do so, but I would make sure that I had a FAM rep available for hints, tips, pointers and to tug on my leash if I get to aggressive or friendly. If a FAM rep was not available, Anything in that chat would be considered "unofficial".

The "stance" that I would like to see FAM take towards PAL would actually be one where we let PAL call the shots. It would make them feel better about themselves and could lead to a better relationship in the next finals. As someone said earlier, we don't need to be the Alpha Dog in this partnership. This one is not a battle to the end, but only to a designated point where the Alliance will disolve and the game will move on to finals (but the warm friendship will carry over).

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1: name 3 positive qualities your opposition possesses that you do not.

A) He is MUCH better at mIRC than I. What is all that "+oo sets mode @Donegeal" all about anyway?
B) More level headed. I tend to go off on a tangent now and then or just come around and argue some strange new idea.
C) Has more expirence playing turns in chat. I have only played one complete turnchat by myself (SPDGII - so it was three turns).

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2: What do you think your biggest strength is?

I can hit people with a club really hard.
Actually I think my ability to see a strategic oppertunity is my biggest strength. I can capitalize on any mistake.

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3: Should you lose, what are your plans in Apolyton?

I would still be very active, just not as active as I have been. If you notice, I have been posting alot lately and expressing my opinon on anything and everything. My frequent posting has been almost a campaign in and of itself.

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4: Given the choice between Banana and Grapes, which would you choose and why?

Normally, it would be bananas all the way, but there seems to be a severe lack of them in this game. I guess I'd have to go with whats available. Grapes. (hiccup)
[Time out]How's that for playing both sides?![/Time out]

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5: What's your favorite paper?

Well, if you can find a banana leaf, it would be the Jungle Gazette. But with the lack of bananas come a lack of banana leaves. I'd have to go with the Messenger. (Wow! I can do this politicing thing!)

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6: What do you see as the most important job of a consul?

The most important thing is what the position is designed for, playing the turn. However, there are infered responsabilities of a Consul that are just as important. Keeping the forum organized. Cooling tempers if and when needed. Settleing disputes, and of course making game related desicions when needed in a timely manor.

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7: What are your feelings towards tech points?

I am not a tech point counter. I think that keeping track will only cause problems. I see tech point in two ways. One, whoever can do it faster should do it (except for Philo, we must be the one to do Philo) and forget points completely (Its an ALLIANCE for gods sakes! We don't need to squeeze every red cent out of them like an AI). And two, we take the more expensive techs in trade for some of that industrial worker action.

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8: Favored method of war?

Hit with Club.
STACK OF DOOM. Heavy on the Cats.

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Don/Klo what do you think of this Choke, Dagger, sledgehammer, castle strategy of play those MP guys the PAL team has?

Should we try and adapt some of these strategies to our style of play?

Are you more of a risk taker or a plod along until the perfect oppurtunity type of player?

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One more question,
Is it OK to sign an NAP with CDG knowing that we are going to break it? Yes or NO.


Depends. To reference my previous post, is the team okay with it? If we are, then yes.


quote:
Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Will you be dealing with PAL yourself in chats, and if so how will you be treating them/attempting to keep them friendly? It not and you are leaving it up to the FAM, what stance would you like them to put to PAL on Poly's behalf?


I'd at least sit in on chats I could make, but I'd probably leave it to the ambassador (or, if they're not there, the FAM) to do the majority of the talking. I might take the lead if it was necessary to hold a chat without either the FAM or ambassador.

As for our stance: With the alliance, basically our teams are linked at the hip, and we should be quite friendly, and open with most to all information as well.

I'm not sure if this is what you mean by stance or not... please tell me if you're asking something else.


quote:
Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Ameteurs...




I know I'm no Arnelos.

quote:
Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
1: name 3 positive qualities your opposition possesses that you do not.


I imagine Donegeal is a better military strategist than I am; I don't have much experience against human opponents.

I'm impressed by his thorough city placement plans. That's another area I think he's better at.

He probably doesn't have an extreme granary fixation.

quote:
Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
2: What do you think your biggest strength is?


As far as the Consulship goes, I think it's being on top of things. I have a pretty good memory (especially for unimportant things ) so I can hold the state of the civ in my head pretty well in any game I'm active in.

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3: Should you lose, what are your plans in Apolyton?


Maybe go back to Vice Consul (unless Don wants to kick me out for running against him. j/k) I might also consider the Interior Ministry, except I'm not sure much help is needed there with Krill as Deputy whenever GK's too busy to do orders (or is booted off the broadband connection he was stealing ).

quote:
Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
4: Given the choice between Banana and Grapes, which would you choose and why?


Can you tell me how ripe each of them would be?

quote:
Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
5: What's your favorite paper?


I prefer white, letter-sized sheets. White has a nice clean look, and letter-sized sheets are necessary for printing. Thick paper has a nice feel to it.

quote:
Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
6: What do you see as the most important job of a consul?


Generally getting things organized - getting all important decisions before the team (posting them for discussion/polling, and trying to move it along to come to a decision if there isn't much time), and getting all other unimportant issues (e.g. micromanagement) decided by the Consuls or by someone else (e.g. MoI).

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Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
7: What are your feelings towards tech points?

They're a good way to keep track of whether a civ is pulling its weight in an agreement. In this particular game, I wouldn't sweat them too much, as PAL is going to be our main trading partner and they're probably going to be capable of pulling more weight.

[QUOTE] Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
8: Favored method of war?


2 on 1. (See question 1 if you were looking for a more detailed answer.)

Edit: More responses later, gotta go catch a bus down to my last Spanish test.

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Is it me, or is it that a fair few of the "leaders" here are still students?

OT:
Will you run for the next consular election if you lose, and why?

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OCT_X is a student

Togas and I are not.

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Is it me, or is it that a fair few of the "leaders" here are still students?

OT:
Will you run for the next consular election if you lose, and why?


Still students? Wise young men you probably mean!

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heh, Aidun, I'm only 16. I'm not even wise, just...naturally talented

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heh, Aidun, I'm only 16. I'm not even wise, just...naturally talented


Sure... talanted....sure....

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Don/Klo what do you think of this Choke, Dagger, sledgehammer, castle strategy of play those MP guys the PAL team has?

Should we try and adapt some of these strategies to our style of play?


We're already pursuing a sledgehammer/castle strategy, which I think will go well. We might want to consider using our Hoplites to "choke" once we break off relations post-Rep. The deadline to start on a "Dagger" is already past, I think.

quote:
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Are you more of a risk taker or a plod along until the perfect oppurtunity type of player?


I'm more of a cautious player.

quote:
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Is it me, or is it that a fair few of the "leaders" here are still students?


Not just you, I think. Uber and Oct are students as well.

Con, Togas, Beta and GK are all on to various professions, though.

quote:
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OT:
Will you run for the next consular election if you lose, and why?


Probably, as I want to serve as Consul sometime and this summer would be a good time to do it.

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Well, I have some bad news guys.

The IT department finaly figured out how we were using the internet at work and have blocked us. I am not withdrawing, I just want everyone to know that my participation level is going to drop as most of my posts I have done at work.

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Well, I have some bad news guys.

The IT department finaly figured out how we were using the internet at work and have blocked us. I am not withdrawing, I just want everyone to know that my participation level is going to drop as most of my posts I have done at work.


Dam sorry to hear that Don

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OCT_X is a student

Togas and I are not.


* MrWhereItsAt is a student. 2 1/2 more years and then there's no more studentness left for me

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hee hee this is a fun one.

GoWer vs. Legoman


both would make great leaders though

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You think in such crude terms? Teamist!

(Oh, and thanks for the Great Leader part. I always wanted to be able to rush something. )

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You think in such crude terms? Teamist!

(Oh, and thanks for the Great Leader part. I always wanted to be able to rush something. )


Well, since you'd be the SGL, you actually COULD rush a wonder.

As for the youth issue... in the PTW ISDG, all three Consuls are in their early 20's.

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I wonder if anyone remembers that I'm actually 16. Age isn't so much a factor, imho, so long as you act maturely and intelligently (certain posters not included ).

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Well, since you'd be the SGL, you actually COULD rush a wonder.

As for the youth issue... in the PTW ISDG, all three Consuls are in their early 20's.


whaat? Trip is only like 13

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I will get to the other questions as soon as I can. Unfortunately, that might not be for another 8+ hours. Feel free to wait to vote until I have answered your questions.

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I wonder if anyone remembers that I'm actually 16. Age isn't so much a factor, imho, so long as you act maturely and intelligently (certain posters not included ).


Sixteen??? I considered you at least as old as I am, twenty, but probably older, like 23 or something.

Aidun

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Don/Klo what do you think of this Choke, Dagger, sledgehammer, castle strategy of play those MP guys the PAL team has?

I have read the thread and they are very well thought out. The one flaw I could see with all of them is that they are all to focused on war. Yep. you heard me correctly. They are all too aggressive. None of them have even considered taking builders approach.

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Should we try and adapt some of these strategies to our style of play?

Yes I do. Once the republic deal is done, we should be in good place as a castle and we could do a little choke on them with hard to kill hoplites and follow it up with a nice big Stack of Doom.

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Are you more of a risk taker or a plod along until the perfect oppurtunity type of player?

Duh! I designed the two warrior stack attack plan. I think that it really only would have had about a 12-33% chance of working completely. So, yes, I am a risk taker. And proud of it.

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Cheers!

 
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