02-05-2004 00:58									#1
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Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Pre-Turn Actions


Military Orders
Offical SMC Thread: Exploration and Defence
the above link maps out plans for the next 3 or so moves. please carry it over until then, or until modified by myself, or until something craxy happens


Worker Orders

City Orders
#1 Apolyton;
#2 Hypnos;


Diplomacy To Be Completed


Any Other Things To Be Done

Last edited by conmcb25 on 02-05-2004 at 01:20

	02-05-2004 23:38									#2
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The save is here and there are (still) no orders.

Suggestions
1. Swap the WF of Apolyton (cattle) with the wf of Hypnox - Apolyton needs only 1 food to grow and 6 shields to complete warrior. The warrior can't be comlpeted for one turn - so we don't need shields and foot in apolyton.
2. Build mine at the bonus grassland near Hypnox (this should be already planned, I'm not sure, but I want to make more impressive post )

	03-05-2004 00:04									#3
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I wont be available till after 2100CDT to play the save this evening.

Klo or OCT_X can you take the lead on playing the save?

Ill be back up.

GK
Can we get MOI orders up? How late do you have to work today?

Uber in our short term agreements with PAL we agreed not to proceed north of an Isthmus just north of meeting mountain. Thats for the next 5 turns until we finalize or decline a deal with PAL.

Please make a note of that in the next 5 turn threads.

	03-05-2004 00:23									#4
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I can play later this afternoon, in a few hours.

	03-05-2004 01:17									#5
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The biggest decision of the turn will be should we switch to CB?

7 turns to do it from right now

8 more turns from IW which we are researching.

I think you all know what I would do.



Who was talking about that sense of urgency earlier today?

	03-05-2004 02:13									#6
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quote: Originally posted by ormuzd 1. Swap the WF of Apolyton (cattle) with the wf of Hypnox - Apolyton needs only 1 food to grow and 6 shields to complete warrior. The warrior can't be comlpeted for one turn - so we don't need shields and foot in apolyton.

Actually, We should keep it working the cow despite the loss of two food. Our warrior needs 6 shields to complete, and if Apolyton is producing 3 extra food, then the computer will automaticaly set the new tile to work as the forest, netting us two free shields and completing the warrior next turn.

Alternately, does anyone know what would happen if we were to turn on the city governer for Apolyton to emphasis production for just this turn? Would the governer put the WF to the forest or would it just default?

	03-05-2004 02:19									#7
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of, yes, forgotten about that...
apologize

	03-05-2004 03:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 The biggest decision of the turn will be should we switch to CB? 7 turns to do it from right now 8 more turns from IW which we are researching. I think you all know what I would do. Who was talking about that sense of urgency earlier today?

Let's shut down research for this turn while the deal is being discussed. We can put it back in with deficit research later on.

	03-05-2004 03:26									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep Let's shut down research for this turn while the deal is being discussed. We can put it back in with deficit research later on.

If you play early I wont be able to be there.

I can be on after 2100EDT.

If you have a group in chat, dont let my absence stop you

	03-05-2004 03:29									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Actually, We should keep it working the cow despite the loss of two food. Our warrior needs 6 shields to complete, and if Apolyton is producing 3 extra food, then the computer will automaticaly set the new tile to work as the forest, netting us two free shields and completing the warrior next turn.

Yep. No cattle-sharing just yet.

quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Alternately, does anyone know what would happen if we were to turn on the city governer for Apolyton to emphasis production for just this turn? Would the governer put the WF to the forest or would it just default?

Emphasize production wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure it goes to the forest.

quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 If you play early I wont be able to be there. I can be on after 2100EDT. If you have a group in chat, dont let my absence stop you

Thing is... I don't have a large group in chat. That wouldn't stop me, except there are no orders from the ministers.

	03-05-2004 03:40									#11
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Okay, proposed mil moves if Uber doesn't show up:
-Grog 9
-Anthea 1, away from the barb
-Road Kill 8 on their way to pop the hut

Proposed worker moves:
-Workers team up to mine that river bonus grass by the cattle

City stuff can stay as is, except for emphasizing production in poly.

And, of course, slider to 0% research.

	03-05-2004 03:42									#12
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Well then if you can wait for me or OCT_X so you have at least two consuls to bounce ideas.

From FP's email I got a feeling at least one barb attacked up north, maybe we got a vet out of it? :hopefull:

Sounds like you know what to do with WF just dicument what you did so GK can back track

GK talked about a forest chop for the barracks in Hypnos.

Im not sure about that, two workers could mine in three turns.

It would nice to get mines, and we can always chop a forest in 2 turns with two workers.

Up to you, but the lack of mines between Apolyton and Hypnos, is an area fo concern for me.

	03-05-2004 03:43									#13
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your above looks good.

Determine what to do with the warrior up north when you see it, my guess is there is damage.

	03-05-2004 03:55									#14
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Whoops, forgot to say there is damage. Anthea did get promoted to vet, but lost 2 HPs. Right next to a forted barb, though, so I figured we should move away before forting to repair damage.

On the workers: I remember him mentioning a forest chop. However, on turn 32 in his orders, GK has Fred & Barney going to the same tile as Roads R Us, which implies a mine to me. (However, I think we should mine the other bonus grass, as it's by a river and therefore gets more commerce.)

	03-05-2004 03:59									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep Whoops, forgot to say there is damage. Anthea did get promoted to vet, but lost 2 HPs. Right next to a forted barb, though, so I figured we should move away before forting to repair damage. On the workers: I remember him mentioning a forest chop. However, on turn 32 in his orders, GK has Fred & Barney going to the same tile as Roads R Us, which implies a mine to me. (However, I think we should mine the other bonus grass, as it's by a river and therefore gets more commerce.)

I LOVE extra commerce Go for the good tile first.

	03-05-2004 05:41									#16
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Turn Report

Played in chat with Aidun and E_T in attendance at 1930 CDT

Unit Actions
1 Roads R Us 2 and mines
Fred & Barney mines
4 Road Kill Warriors 8 (sees more desert)
1 Anthea the Blonde 1 (away from the barb)
3 Grog 9 (Sees another Ivory, PAL warrior)

Other Actions
Apolyton governor set to Emphasize Production.
Research slider to 0%

Last edited by Kloreep on 03-05-2004 at 06:31

	03-05-2004 06:01									#17
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D@mn - that round came about fast. I just logged on and was preparing to do orders..... oh my. Looks like things worked well regardless.

	03-05-2004 07:11									#19
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Can you post the work force and any other DM issues that were made so I can accurately account and do the next turn orders. IE - is Hypnos working the cows? (that was going to be my idea, but I didn't get the chace to check things out..... thanks to everybody who covered for me.)

Oh my, is that an island and not part of our land to our north? Crap.

	03-05-2004 07:49									#20
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing Can you post the work force and any other DM issues that were made so I can accurately account and do the next turn orders. IE - is Hypnos working the cows? (that was going to be my idea, but I didn't get the chace to check things out..... thanks to everybody who covered for me.)

If I had changed any of the WF, I would have posted so.

The reason I left it as-is is that Apolyton will need to grow on to the forest, which it won't do if it's under +3fpt. Plus, even with the forest, we need 4 spt base to be added to the shields from the forest in order to produce the warrior this turn. So, poly had to stay on the cattle or take another turn on the warrior.

Sorry, I probably jumped the gun on the save. :/

quote: Originally posted by GodKing Oh my, is that an island and not part of our land to our north? Crap.

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