04-05-2004 03:22									#1
	Online multiplayer game tonight? Any1 wanna play? Also need new server.dat file. Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Hey, long time since i played ctp now, but got the desire to play a few games again. I do not wanna play pbme, but online games. Anything from 1-3 others would be nice

Contact me on msn, tskaalan@broadpark.no if u wanna play.

Also on my server list i only get 2 servers up, dunno if theres no more anymore, but back in the days it was like 10 server, so if there should be more, could any1 be so kind to upload a fresh server.dat file?

Also i do not play any mods, but the good old ctp with just the activision patch.

	04-05-2004 06:38									#2
	Re: Online multiplayer game tonight? Any1 wanna play? Also need new server.dat file. Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by Pin Hey, long time since i played ctp now, but got the desire to play a few games again. I do not wanna play pbme, but online games. Anything from 1-3 others would be nice Contact me on msn, tskaalan@broadpark.no if u wanna play. Also on my server list i only get 2 servers up, dunno if theres no more anymore, but back in the days it was like 10 server, so if there should be more, could any1 be so kind to upload a fresh server.dat file? Also i do not play any mods, but the good old ctp with just the activision patch.

PIN!!!

Long time!!

It is I..well.when we played..I was known as Patton or DrDanger...Red October..were 3 of my nicnames..

Back when we had Catete..DrBibber..Aero Lusitano...Quebec...MrBlack..that SoU&l Clan from Toronto I believe...as well as Thomas Diemar from Deutchland..

You were in Military If I Remember correctly!!

Its been like 4-5 years ago I believe???

Man..

I been bragging on you for awhile here!!

Watch yourself though..some folks here want a piece of the legend..

Great to see you about!!

I tried joining your game but to no avail...

not sure why...

at any rate

WELCOME HOME!!!!!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

	04-05-2004 10:07									#3
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Great, a nordic player ! I still haven't played any online game due to the XP-network issue together with CTP.
Some say that it will work if the game starter have win98. I'm willing to give it another try.

©Dimytes 2004

	04-05-2004 10:52									#4
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hmm, im running win xp now, did use win98 back in the days when i played much
I do however have dual boot, if some1 wanna give it a try to fix it, plz contact me on msn.


Hi Patton
long time no see...
Well i got tired of ctp after my army time was finished, couldnt find a challeng in it anymore. Tried vs the 3 comps last night, couldnt remember all the tweaks, but most of it came back Beat deity lvl by far, even tough thats not a big accomplishment.

You know if anyone else is around? Like Merlin, Yoda, the two guys from greece, Niko the Great and kostas?

And btw should i have more then 2 servers in my server list? Would be nice if someone could upload a fresh servers.dat file to me if it should.

And any info on the winxp network bug would be highly appreciated. Does it work if the host use win2k? or run the executable in the win98 mode thats available in winxp?

	04-05-2004 11:57									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Dimytes Great, a nordic player ! I still haven't played any online game due to the XP-network issue together with CTP. Some say that it will work if the game starter have win98. I'm willing to give it another try. ©Dimytes 2004

Yeh apparantly it will.. I run XP and cannot host.. But never a problem with playing even with my firewall up, and at max. Just created exception rule for CTP prgram.

	04-05-2004 16:29									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Pin hmm, im running win xp now, did use win98 back in the days when i played much I do however have dual boot, if some1 wanna give it a try to fix it, plz contact me on msn. Hi Patton long time no see... You know if anyone else is around? Like Merlin, Yoda, the two guys from greece, Niko the Great and kostas? And btw should i have more then 2 servers in my server list? Would be nice if someone could upload a fresh servers.dat file to me if it should.

I use WIN98SE to play CTP..)also Dual Boot!)something to do with the files,IIRC..FAT32 vs NTSF..



Yes..Patton..er..Grandpa Troll enjoys seeing you also!!

Yoda is around..

Merlin..gone..

Niko & Kostas..ahh... where have they gone??..Ouzo maybe

Yes 2 servers only...

Peace

Grandpa "Feeling-Younger-with Pin-here-now"Troll

	04-05-2004 16:40									#7
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On the evenings I am happy to play for up to three or so hours..

Nice to see a bit of life coming back into CTP Online.. We had a (brief) 5 player this weekend, could have been six..

	04-05-2004 16:44									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Pin Well i got tired of ctp after my army time was finished, couldnt find a challeng in it anymore. Tried vs the 3 comps last night, couldnt remember all the tweaks, but most of it came back Beat deity lvl by far, even tough thats not a big accomplishment.

There are some good players around now, and yes most play by the book, un modded, no bugs, tricks, cheats, all based on ability.

	04-05-2004 16:51									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Gavrushka There are some good players around now, and yes most play by the book, un modded, no bugs, tricks, cheats, all based on ability.

In this picture..I am on the left...


EVERYONE ELSE PLAYING CALL TO POWER IS DEPICTED AND CAN BE PLUGGED IN ON THE RIGHT!!

Ouchie..hope i get a chance one day to fight back?

Peace

#2098765438695 ......and trying harder!!!

EDIT:

Above number based on an independant survey of people who have played or who would play Call To Power this milenium. Based on a +/- 100% curve correction.


Grandpa Troll

	04-05-2004 23:11									#10
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Gavrushka what ports need to be forwarded? im using a hardware router config, actually 2 routers (long story dont ask why ) just need to know what ports to nat to my box.

Also if any1 wanna play a game with me ill hang around in the Apolyton chat whenever im online.

	04-05-2004 23:33									#11
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No Idea..

I have forwarded query to Blackice, who I am sure will be able to help, HOWEVER I do know he turns off router (I think I know) to play.

	04-05-2004 23:38									#12
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It shouldnt be neccesary to turn it off....

	05-05-2004 00:30									#13
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21157 is the port, welcome back Pin, do you need to be brought up to speed on switch rush buy trick or ramping?
As far as severs there are only two now.

	05-05-2004 00:49									#14
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ramping i dont know, the switch rush buy trick is an old one i know about

	05-05-2004 00:50									#15
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u sure its port 21157? and not 2157 or something, it sounded like a very high port.

	05-05-2004 01:14									#16
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That actually comes from norton internet security:
The user has created a rule to ""permit"" communications. Outbound UDP packet Local address,service is (0.0.0.0,21125) Remote address,service is (128.241.27.51,21157) Process name is ""C:\Program Files\Activision\Civilization-Call To Power\ctp_program\CTP\CivCTP.exe.
The ip address was for the nl server.

I also had it on and old disk they match. The servers from what I have seen so far are not a static ip address, but I have not taken a great long look at that.

	05-05-2004 01:21									#17
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Yes switch was well in use when you were up and running, who taught you that anyway? All lot of people dropped out of GL after that fiasco, turns out most all the top guys were using it and kept it to themselves. I digress you know that too don't you.

Yoda still about and considered by all as the master, numero uno in the world as we know it. Tough cookie, still a nice guy and an honest player. He bops in and out of here and the servers regularly. Niko the Great and kostas have not seen them since the great GL meltdown.

Now ramping make some small mine or fisheries then same turn drop large one's over top for what was it a quarter of the cost.

Another form of ramping is farm or mine under city, build a farm or mine on turn of completion drop a city on it.

I am sure someone will correct me if I have these wrong...

Switch buy as you may or may no know includes any same value building to unit.

Last edited by blackice on 05-05-2004 at 01:39

	05-05-2004 02:04									#18
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I thought ramping was wanting something like a factory (or wonder) so u start by rushbuying say temple, then switching to say an aqua, rushbuying, switching to a ... until U get a factory bought cheaper than its normal gold cost

	05-05-2004 02:31									#19
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Hummm I'll have to look into that, if so what do we call the mines, fisheries,mines city farm city tricks? I mean we have to have a catch word, I mean let's be real everything has a catch phase or word...

I had an email awhile back from activision who said they tested that and the cost remained the same, someone do the math, MATH! could ya do the math

	05-05-2004 02:33									#20
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Math gave the suggestion suburban infra.. suburban farms and suburban mines..

Subinfra?

	05-05-2004 02:35									#21
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Would that not then just be an extention of the swap rush buy trick?

Two area's here, buildings and units, within the city and infrastructure.

Because in my book farm city mine city bug is the same as small mine, fisheries large mine, fisheries... Any of which create an unfair advantage to the opponent who knows not. Both are infrastructure bugs and are related no matter what spin you put on it.

Hell the whole thing is called ramping if you take the word for it's meaning.

	05-05-2004 02:36									#22
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Who tought me switches? I like to think i invented it . Never used it to that extent shown here tough. Used it for wonders mainly in the early game. My main strength was however the micro management. Dunno if all the secrets have been revealed yet, and i cant remember them all. But in the guides etc ive seen on these forums dont shows all the small tweaks that have huge impact of the early game.

	05-05-2004 02:39									#23
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Are you talking Startegy Pin? If so please share it with us..

If you are talking something else.. Please share it with us..

	05-05-2004 02:43									#24
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ahhh.. micromanagement.. yeh there was a lot on that, changing the tiles being worked just as a science coming, or a unit coming out, so no wasted prod on a unit (as not saved to next) that sort of thing.. A lot of us know about it, but most don't always fully use it.. It makes the off turn quite busy..

	05-05-2004 02:43									#25
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Strategy yes, how to max ure growth in all fields early game, or til modern age. How ure settings on ration, workhours, wages, military alertness etc etc according to what goverment u have. Also take the factor number of cities and when to switch to infrastructure etc. I dont remember it all, just tested 1 game vs 3 deity comps yesterday and i still beat them by far. But need to test vs a few human players before ill say i remember the most. Yesterday was like my first ctp game for 4 years and i remembered little by little as the hours past by

	05-05-2004 02:49									#26
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Well there is an online game in 15 mins if you want to put it to the test?

Yeh we know much (but not all) about workday and the like.. what slider settings suit which government, how quick they run to full military, how to get the inc in city size timed just right, get the science advance just right, maxing growth in anarchy turns.. But I know there is still much not known... I am all ears..

You coming online?? Ice can host

	05-05-2004 02:52									#27
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ive tried with a m8 earlier today didnt get it to work, ill pop onto server and see if i can connect

	05-05-2004 02:52									#28
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I am sure Ice will sort it..

	05-05-2004 02:56									#29
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Reason i started ctp yesterday was that i found CTP on HD in an section i havent seen for like 4 years I only have version 1.2 installed.
Tried to update to 1.21 but it wouldnt do it. I assume its bcz i either have 1.21 but dont know about it. Or bcz i have formatted windows partion a few times since i installed ctp, and therefor cant find it.
My ctp cd wasnt here in my appartment, i assume its in my parents house. So im trying downloading from a m8 now, but as we speak that download was stopped. Any1 with a fast ftp that could let me download CTP image would be highly appreciated, so i can try to reinstall ctp and patch it proper. And yes i have the original game lying home with my parents, but thats a 7 hour drive away so not going there for a while.

	05-05-2004 03:01									#30
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im on the nl server lobby. If u cant see me or i cant see you i assume its becouse u have 1.21 installed and i have 1.2...