10-05-2004 04:23									#31
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Flames win.

	10-05-2004 04:26									#32
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Even though the refs and the leprecahns have conspired against us, we come through.

Where's Lawrence of Arabia?

	10-05-2004 04:34									#33
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Kipper made what.. 49 saves? Come on Flames, you need to step it up!

	10-05-2004 04:37									#34
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Good game, but the Flames looked really tired as it went late.

	10-05-2004 05:19									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Kipper made what.. 49 saves? Come on Flames, you need to step it up!

There were about 3 REALLY good chances that some players made very stupid errors with (Donovan, I'm looking in your direction). Those all should've been goals, and were perfectly set up.

	10-05-2004 17:08									#36
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	10-05-2004 22:51									#37
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im here - was gone for the weekend, only caught OT of the game sunday night. flamers stole one last nite. each series a team has stole a game from the sharkies. but dont expect to continue winning this way flamers. if you allow 52 shots in a game you will lose, more often than not.

and yea, officiating was bad. a coupla penalties shoulda been called, one on cheechoo i think when he tripped up a flamer and one on kipprusoff, when he slashed a shark, and then another one kipprusoff when he took a dive.

	11-05-2004 03:00									#38
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That 52 shots number was deceiving. Anyone who watched the game could tell what San Jose's "strategy" was -- pepper the net with shots and sooner or later you'll get lucky. That's exactly what happened.

The Sharks had a very small number of chances, but a high number of shots. The vast majority of their shots were from like 10 degrees, from 10 feet away, right into Kipper. All they're doing is boosting his stats.

If I were you, I'd be more worried about Nabokov. 11 shots, 2 goals in the first period. If he's going to keep playing like that, it's gotta hurt extra bad to know that you traded Kipper for one of the last 2nd round trades for next season.

The Flames outplayed the Sharks, the Sharks played a boneheaded game just peppering the net with shots and hoping for flukes (which they certainly got), and combined with the worst officiating I've seen for a long time, they almost made it.

Unfortunately, when you play a real team, that just doesn't cut it.

And, as this first game has clearly demonstrated, Kipper owns Nabokov. Not even close in terms of skill level.

Nabokov sv %: 89.1%
Kipper sv %: 94.2%

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	11-05-2004 03:59									#39
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Well, if Calgary wins the cup, that means Vancouver gets to be the 2nd best team in the League.

	11-05-2004 07:29									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Well, if Calgary wins the cup, that means Vancouver gets to be the 2nd best team in the League.

I know a Leafs fan that uses similar logic-- According to him the Leafs have been the second best team for five years running. Even if the team eliminating the leafs is also eliminated early he can concoct rationales considering the " real strength' of the team, injuries, luck, voodoo, and the phases of the moon to promote HIS team. Acouple of years he would even claim that they were really the champions .. .

	11-05-2004 07:36									#41
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How long have you known Agathon?

	11-05-2004 07:37									#42
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Anyways... that was quite a boxing match between Tampa and Philly. Can't wait for game 3 in the city of brotherly muggings.

	11-05-2004 07:38									#43
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btw, in that pic of Kipper he looks like he's just been traded for a roll of tape and three jock straps. Oh wait...

	11-05-2004 07:47									#44
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That was a horribly-referreed (sp?) game. In those situations you have to call things evenly, or one team gets no respect, and the problems continue. They also should have given Brashear the automatic game-misconduct for leaving the bench in the first mess - he may not have caused any problems that time, but you just know he is going to later - use the legit opportunity to get rid of him.

	11-05-2004 07:49									#45
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GOOO PHILLY!!!

	11-05-2004 08:29									#46
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither How long have you known Agathon?

	11-05-2004 08:58									#47
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quote: And, as this first game has clearly demonstrated, Kipper owns Nabokov. Not even close in terms of skill level.

right, one game decides everything right? you're full of ****

	11-05-2004 09:00									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia right, one game decides everything right? you're full of ****

How about a full season of games, where Kipper also clearly demonstrated superiority?

	11-05-2004 09:04									#49
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so thats why the sharks are the 2 seed and the cgy is the 6th.

	11-05-2004 09:12									#50
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There's more to a team than goalies, plus Kipper only joined the team in late November, and missed over a month due to injury (where about 12 of the flames losses occured alone...)

If we're going to play it that way, look at it as the Flames being so good right now that the only team that lead a division in the Western Conference that they haven't knocked out is the sharks. And they're next.

	11-05-2004 09:32									#51
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so then its not a full season of games if joined in late november and missed over a month due to injury

	11-05-2004 09:35									#52
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You're right, it's not. Nabokov had more of a chance than Kipper did, especially not having to bounce back from an injury.

	11-05-2004 11:26									#53
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so then nabokov also faced more shots, and stronger opponents which is why his save percentage would be lower.

	11-05-2004 14:30									#54
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Asher: I know you love Kippy, but consider that Khabibulan looked invincible with a <1.00 GAA and a Save % of something like .985. But not anymore. Same thing could happen to Kippy.

The Flyers victory over Tampa last night shows they deserve all the credit for taking down the Leafs. A lot of people have said the Leafs sucked when the reality is that they were good, but the Flyers were simply better and potentially better than Tampa. Of course the Flyers will crash in the next game.

	11-05-2004 16:43									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Asher: I know you love Kippy, but consider that Khabibulan looked invincible with a <1.00 GAA and a Save % of something like .985. But not anymore. Same thing could happen to Kippy.

We should be so lucky -- whenever Kipper lets four or more goals in for a single game, the next three games he only lets one in.

	12-05-2004 00:32									#56
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Kipper is good . .. very very good---he had an amazing season despite his injury time-- I expect the flames to take the sharks down in 6

	12-05-2004 03:09									#57
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This about sums it up:

Vinnie Paul (of Damage Plan, formerly of Pantera) in an interview this morning with the Calgary Herald:

quote: Now that my Dallas Stars are out, I'm pulling for your Calgary Flames, man. They're looking tough. I'm a big fan of Iginla and that (expletive) goalie is a mother (expletive).

	12-05-2004 06:51									#58
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wow - i am one shellshocked fan. and its the end of the first.

	12-05-2004 07:15									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia so then nabokov also faced more shots, and stronger opponents which is why his save percentage would be lower.

how about this - your team isn't going to the Stanley Cup finals this year.

	12-05-2004 08:18									#60
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Flames up 4-1