08-05-2004 00:14									#31
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Cuz I suck poorly? Real humans kick my ass.

most ppl get better when theyre facing challenges. people who cant adjust their scrubby way of thinking ever though, will never get good.

dont avoid em, confront em

	08-05-2004 00:27									#32
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Actually, I was pretty good until I went up against those damned Kangaroos. In our little group I was king, until bozo figured out how to be a Kangaroo. Then I had to become a sniper. I like being a sniper.

	08-05-2004 00:28									#33
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competition evolves. you have to deal wit it, or be a scrub.

Also, when i myself think im actually good is when i believe im the scrubbiest. I probably exhausted all the comp i could from that area. But this world is a large place. So theres prolly someone that can scrub me with his toes manuvering the mouse... so yea humility pays when it comes to that. you gotta get ur game developing or ur gonna eventually hit that scrub point.

The funny thing about compettion is that the more you get ur ass handed down, more you get the priviledge to hand one too. If you avoid comp, u'll never get ur chance.

but as you get addicted to comp, ass handing get s boooring. You start to seek people who can hand ur ass down instead. You get addicted to that challenge and the rush of tying to beat agst it.

Thats how all sports goes.

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	08-05-2004 00:31									#34
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No +1s for you olks. If this moves to the Other Games Forum it will drop like a rock and be forgotten.

	08-05-2004 00:35									#35
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It took me at least 20 games before I scored my first frag in Counter-strike. Same for the first win in Starcraft. But with training will get you out of the misery, trust me.

Too bad I don't have much time for multiplayer any longer, because that rocks!!! And now I have 2M ADSL compared to 64k ISDN last time I played something in MP. Bye-bye lag!

	08-05-2004 00:45									#36
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I was always good at starcraft

and when all the gosus from korea began to play and got good i saw the threat and just honorably "retired" from it. So I can say im some big jackass of L337 SC players without having to prove it.

LOL im so gheyor!!1!

	08-05-2004 01:42									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Zero fighting like a man involves using inferiro tactics and getting urself killed? and if this was in real life u'd much prefer fighting like a man too and getting ur head blown off when u could be using "cheap" tactics... right~

In real life if I was getting shot at I wouldn't have a 40 inch vertical that I could sustain infinitley all the while having pinpoint accuracy with a gun.

It's cheezy as hell.

	08-05-2004 02:43									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Zero I was always good at starcraft and when all the gosus from korea began to play and got good i saw the threat and just honorably "retired" from it. So I can say im some big jackass of L337 SC players without having to prove it. LOL im so gheyor!!1!

If UR so kowl and want some distance to the Koreans, why don't you write in funking English?

	08-05-2004 04:09									#39
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Ok
wich WW2 shooter is the best?

How is the mod and ability to edit?






thanks

	08-05-2004 04:45									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie If UR so kowl and want some distance to the Koreans, why don't you write in funking English?

but i do that all the time. you really miss me doing that, that much?

i didnt know i had a fan for my spamming personality... yay

and you got it wrong. I dont wanna distance myself from koreans. i wanna actually be as good as them but i dont think i can. so avoid challenge. Yes im being a scrub, that was what i was trying to get at

	08-05-2004 04:48									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker In real life if I was getting shot at I wouldn't have a 40 inch vertical that I could sustain infinitley all the while having pinpoint accuracy with a gun. It's cheezy as hell.

if it was real life you wouldnt go "****, i got shot in the head, oh well ill get him next round".

its a game. game involves strategies. argument for why certain strategy is tupid just because its unreal is gay.

like, if u couldnt be imaginative and couldnt think outside of the box to come up wit good start, its ur fault.

	08-05-2004 04:51									#42
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Yes it is a game.

But any great game involves immersion. If it didn't resemble reality it wouldn't be so fun to play.

Part of you DOES think it's real.

When you jump around like a kangaroo it takes you away from that immersion and makes it something else.

Jumping like a kangaroo is about as lame as wall hacking.

	08-05-2004 04:55									#43
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Not to mention the anti-gravity boots in Unreal Tournament

	08-05-2004 04:58									#44
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how is jumping like a kangaroo have in anyway similarity as wall hacking.

Wall hacking is a hack, a cheat. It breaks the game by giving advantage.

Kangaroo jumping is an "exploit" or a better word for it would be skill and ingenuity. If it is overpowered, it also breaks the game, but everyone can do it. And it also adds to the strategy. You have to deal with this defensive measure.

quote: But any great game involves immersion. If it didn't resemble reality it wouldn't be so fun to play.

no. Good game design involves potential for good strategy. (or potential for good story plot and imagination for those SP gamers) Are you saying cards and chess is a bad game because it is not realistic? i dont think about some realistic story plot behind chess or poker. I care about strategic decisions made, probable outcome, bluffs and intimidation my opponent puts. What game looks and feels is nothing because those stuff are only there to connect me with the opponent in some bizzare rule we fight in.


The problem with yall is that u guys play MP games at a scrub level. Im sorry if that sounds insulting, but u do not have clear understanding of competitive and strategic game if u think this way. You tend to think and see things in terms of how it affects ur imaginative world u create while playing the game. And if jumping 40 feet doesnt coincide with ur fantasy u do not like it. This depends on personal preference wince some rpg players may like fireball and spells but u might be in favor of machine guns.

I view things in terms of what these features mean in terms of gameplay wise. What does this feature do for my attack and defense strategy. how does that affect my opponents reaction. It doesnt matter if the animation is guy jumping 40 feet or if he isnt jumping but game play wise he avoids all low shots. in whats important is how opponent and player interacts becasue of the ability one or the other has that ultimately matters.

so if they take out bunny hop, but they put another realistic feature that is exact same property of bunny hop (say he doesnt look like jumping, but when hes holding out a shield lets say and during that time his hitbox changes into something similar to as he was jumping 40 ft into the air) then it makes zero differnece to me. But it seems like thats what u are concerned about only.

	08-05-2004 05:11									#45
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i keep editting but i cant quite explain it well so i give up.

	08-05-2004 21:08									#46
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	09-05-2004 00:03									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Zero how is jumping like a kangaroo have in anyway similarity as wall hacking. Wall hacking is a hack, a cheat. It breaks the game by giving advantage. Kangaroo jumping is an "exploit" or a better word for it would be skill and ingenuity. If it is overpowered, it also breaks the game, but everyone can do it. And it also adds to the strategy. You have to deal with this defensive measure. quote: But any great game involves immersion. If it didn't resemble reality it wouldn't be so fun to play. no. Good game design involves potential for good strategy. (or potential for good story plot and imagination for those SP gamers) Are you saying cards and chess is a bad game because it is not realistic? i dont think about some realistic story plot behind chess or poker. I care about strategic decisions made, probable outcome, bluffs and intimidation my opponent puts. What game looks and feels is nothing because those stuff are only there to connect me with the opponent in some bizzare rule we fight in. The problem with yall is that u guys play MP games at a scrub level. Im sorry if that sounds insulting, but u do not have clear understanding of competitive and strategic game if u think this way. You tend to think and see things in terms of how it affects ur imaginative world u create while playing the game. And if jumping 40 feet doesnt coincide with ur fantasy u do not like it. This depends on personal preference wince some rpg players may like fireball and spells but u might be in favor of machine guns. I view things in terms of what these features mean in terms of gameplay wise. What does this feature do for my attack and defense strategy. how does that affect my opponents reaction. It doesnt matter if the animation is guy jumping 40 feet or if he isnt jumping but game play wise he avoids all low shots. in whats important is how opponent and player interacts becasue of the ability one or the other has that ultimately matters. so if they take out bunny hop, but they put another realistic feature that is exact same property of bunny hop (say he doesnt look like jumping, but when hes holding out a shield lets say and during that time his hitbox changes into something similar to as he was jumping 40 ft into the air) then it makes zero differnece to me. But it seems like thats what u are concerned about only.

If you want to jump around then play something lame like Unreal Tournament.

If the historical setting and realness of the game doesn't mean anything to you then go play Unreal Tournament.

Go play Unreal Tournament.

But stay the hell out of the WW2 shooters.

	09-05-2004 09:53									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker If you want to jump around then play something lame like Unreal Tournament. If the historical setting and realness of the game doesn't mean anything to you then go play Unreal Tournament. Go play Unreal Tournament. But stay the hell out of the WW2 shooters.

why should i. i find those games fun as well as UT. bf 1942 and cs has its own unqiue system and strategic choices compared to UT and most of all i get to win for free because of ppl like u.

dont tell people who can play better to not play just because u cant handle their strats.

and if u cant handle competition and whine about the littlest thing then stay the hell out of MP

	09-05-2004 10:00									#49
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Forget WWII how about WWI modern style.... aka Ironstorm....

	09-05-2004 13:05									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Zero why should i. i find those games fun as well as UT. bf 1942 and cs has its own unqiue system and strategic choices compared to UT and most of all i get to win for free because of ppl like u. dont tell people who can play better to not play just because u cant handle their strats. and if u cant handle competition and whine about the littlest thing then stay the hell out of MP

Never said I couldn't play.

Just that kangaroos are annoying as hell. On the same level as spawn campers and wall hackers.

By the way, most of the best players don't jump around like kangaroos either.

It's usually the wannabes.

Like you for example.

	09-05-2004 23:47									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Never said I couldn't play. Just that kangaroos are annoying as hell. On the same level as spawn campers and wall hackers. By the way, most of the best players don't jump around like kangaroos either. It's usually the wannabes. Like you for example.

ummm what r u talking about. best players always employ the best strats they possibly can.

the things scrubs find annoying are things they cant handle. you finding it annoying is enough for me to know u cant deal with that ****.

Like, in any games ppl screm "cheap" "fight like a man" if they're losing not winning. duh... while im like, dumb idiots keep doing what ur doing because im winning if u dont adapt....

if anyone ever played sports, the first thing you learn about playing competitively is to "suck it up" when ur losing. And in sports, theres INEQUALITIES! When i played b-ball, people were taller than me and ****, and yet i was told to "suck it up"! when they were dunking over me, i was told to "suck it up". And now when i play MP games, i see bunch of lamers whining about unfairness annoyiness and cheapness on something everyone has fair access too?

So, ur scrubness alone tells me ur not that good without even playing u. If you have that fight like a man mentality in anything ur always gonna suck in sports games and everything competitive. How about instead of asking ur opponent to fight like a man, u play like a man and suck it up?

Myself and all other gamers have heard thousands of ppl like u whining. This arguement we're having now is nothing new. So not new that everything u said has so far been said by another srcub already. Its been done to death millions of times and simply put, ur wrong. So much that theres like two major sites and articles dedicated to show u why ur wrong

http://www.sirlin.net
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/thread34747.php

"OMG im soo frustrated and sooooo annoyed because im like the best and winning all the ****ing time. These guys are using stupid strategies that allows me to win for FREE And Damn that frustrates me!!!1!!!"
yeah uh huh.
duhhhhhhhhhh.....

	09-05-2004 23:55									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn Forget WWII how about WWI modern style.... aka Ironstorm....

ironstorm was like weird.

wasnt it like wwi based game except with modern technology?

	10-05-2004 02:07									#53
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Does "Call to Duty" have any trick segments, such as requiring the player to fly a plane or drive a tank? Does it have timed segments or ones with utterly unrealistic goals?

	10-05-2004 02:20									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Does "Call to Duty" have any trick segments, such as requiring the player to fly a plane or drive a tank?

I didn't go all the way through the game, but there is one mission where you ride in a car behind enemy lines and shoot out the window, but don't drive. That might be a mission that you would call "ridiculously unrealistic" aswell.

	10-05-2004 02:23									#55
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You've to drive a tank but only in a very minor mission.

I liked Call of Duty, it was fun although somewhat short

	10-05-2004 02:24									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Zero ummm what r u talking about. best players always employ the best strats they possibly can.

Those are nice threads but it's clear you still have no idea what you are talking about.

Yesterday I went up against the best Desert Combat clan that I have ever seen.

NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of these were kangaroos. Not one. The best tactic they knew was how to position themselves. Getting a shot on them was hard enough 50% of the time. Usually you'd get shot before you even saw one of them. When you did get a clean shot, they were impossible to hit, because of the way they moved. They OWNED the game, as a tool like you would say.

Secondly if I saw you on the basketball court I'd swat your azz in a second. Try and post up on me and you'd find yourself on the floor. So don't make the comparison to sports. They have things like fouls and offsides calls for people like you.

How old are you anyway, 6?

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quote: Originally posted by Zero ironstorm was like weird. wasnt it like wwi based game except with modern technology?

Basically world war one never ended and the game begins 50 years after 1914 which is 1964.... military technology advanced a lot due to the ongoing war.... but most of the fighting is still in trenches... its a great game... I love it... I got it for 10 bucks at walmart..........

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Does "Call to Duty" have any trick segments, such as requiring the player to fly a plane or drive a tank? Does it have timed segments or ones with utterly unrealistic goals?

You do get to drive a tank, which is kinda fun. There are a couple of levels which are timed in that after you complete your goals, you have to hold out for re-enforcements. One level in the Soviet campaign is particularly difficult, but I eventually found a place to hide and wait for re-enforcements.

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Those are nice threads but it's clear you still have no idea what you are talking about. Yesterday I went up against the best Desert Combat clan that I have ever seen. NOT ONE SINGLE ONE of these were kangaroos. Not one. The best tactic they knew was how to position themselves. Getting a shot on them was hard enough 50% of the time. Usually you'd get shot before you even saw one of them. When you did get a clean shot, they were impossible to hit, because of the way they moved. They OWNED the game, as a tool like you would say. Secondly if I saw you on the basketball court I'd swat your azz in a second. Try and post up on me and you'd find yourself on the floor. So don't make the comparison to sports. They have things like fouls and offsides calls for people like you. How old are you anyway, 6?

CLEARLY u have no idea about wat ur talking about.

in new version of CS no one bunny hops duh. That just shows how much u know about high level CS playing..

u have no understanding at all. U are a scrub. simple as that.

Do i sound like im insulting u? sorry its just a fact. i dont want to make it sound any worse than it is, but what can i say? i cant lie to u and cater to ur own scrub fantasy world..

please geeko, i'll own you in basket ball.

	10-05-2004 02:29									#60
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I have never played Counter Strike.

Never said that I did.

DUH