10-05-2004 10:45									#1
	Turn 37, 2310bc Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Pre-Turn Actions


Military Orders
Roadkill: 8
Anthea: 9
Grog: N
Ares': React to the barbarian threat. hopefully, the barbarian attacked and lost. if it fortifies, i suggest also fortifying.

Worker Orders
Road R Us CHOPS
Fred & Barney MINE

City Orders
Continue present build sequence

Diplomacy To Be Completed
edit by con: Schedule PAL chat and draft reply letter to PAL on alliance.
edit by con:Send a letter to CDG explaining the GK chat and our position on "game long" NAPS


Any Other Things To Be Done

Last edited by Inverse Icarus on 12-05-2004 at 07:12

	11-05-2004 23:41									#2
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We do not still need a letter to CDG on the game long NAP issue do we? I believe that was adressed in last nights chat.

Also letter is out to PAL. I am awaiting a response, hopefully they will want a chat soon.

	12-05-2004 06:00									#3
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SAVE IS IN.

Need Mil orders.

Please join chat (#c3cisdg holydoughnut) to participate in the save and in the PAL talks.

--Togas

	12-05-2004 07:48									#4
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Turn Results for 2310bc

Turn played at 2:20GMT using posted orders

PAL sent us Iron Working accepted. We accept.

We have iron to our west in the desert! No iron spotted near CDG. And in chat, PAL reports that they do not have iron in any of the lands they've explored.



No military orders posted, so I followed the spirit of those orders that have previously been followed:

Roadkill move northeast (9) and sees the CDG curragh! in the sea nearby.

Anthea moves north (8) And Spots SILK!

Grog moves north (8)

Con the Meek moves back across the river, moving West (4). The barbarians no longer threaten Road R Us, and we desperately need him for happiness police.

Are's Boys FORTIFY on their hill ... facing off with fortified barbs on the nearby hill.

Workers
Roads R Us CHOPS
Fred & Barney MINES

Cities
No changes to either city.

ISSUE OF NOTE

When I tried to downshift the slider to 90%, we lost a turn on ceremonial burial. NEXT TURN we are going to have to use the mil police and I moved Con back accordingly. Using the slider would cause us to lose a turn on the tech.

PAL reports that they are strong to CDG. We are also strong to CDG and Average to PAL.

PAL size 6
BAT size 5
CDG size 2
GWT size 1

Our rankings remain the same.

In talking with PAL in chat, the "Isthumus" that we were not to cross is no longer off-limits. They trust us. However, I still do not see it in our map just yet. They've described it as follows: "5 tiles wide. No resources. Cow at top". Perhaps we'll know it when we see it.

Soon another settler .... we need a city discussion thread and naming poll!

--Togas

Last edited by Togas on 12-05-2004 at 07:56

	12-05-2004 14:42									#7
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An eventful turn indeed. CDG will meet PAL vey shortly, if they have not as of the last turn or two. Good to know we have Iron - we just need to watch it so no-one else gets to it before us (unlikely I know, but you neve know...)! Hopefully the Silks means we will be able to sort out a trade with PAL, and we don't need to rely totally on Temples or the lux slider.

One last point - in dealing with those barbs, this came up recently in the Conquests forum:

quote: Originally posted by CyberChrist In all versions of Conquest barbarians will only attack or move to attack any unit (with the exception of units with a defence of 0) located in an exact NW or SE direction of barbarians themselves. A unit positioned in any other direction - no matter how close - wont even make the largest horde of barbarians move an inch or take any initiative to do anything but get slowly killed one by one over the following turns.

Could prove useful for ensuring we keep them around until such a time as we want to go for unit promotion.

	12-05-2004 17:09									#8
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Does PAL have knowledge of our Western Lands?

CDG probably has. They've sent that boat around our coastline.

PAL and CDG are quite far apart. This may delay their upcoming hostilities.

If we can trade our Wines for Silks from PAL (assuming they're near it), we'll have three luxuries to work with. Nice.

	12-05-2004 18:25									#9
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Does PAL have knowledge of our Western Lands? CDG probably has. They've sent that boat around our coastline.

No not really, they know where we are are more or less but no specifics. They know we have horses and iron. Im talking about PAL here.

quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster PAL and CDG are quite far apart. This may delay their upcoming hostilities. If we can trade our Wines for Silks from PAL (assuming they're near it), we'll have three luxuries to work with. Nice.

I think PAL is planning on a horse army and building a road to the "Meeting Mountain", Last might in chat they said they would be giving us an idea shortly of how long that will take.

We agreed to share all Lux's when we have a surplus. PAL is looking at this like a marriage and we share resources and knowledge.