12-05-2004 03:57									#1
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what is your favourite attribute?

	12-05-2004 05:40									#2
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Ag...

	12-05-2004 05:46									#3
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My favorite is Expansionist. It's not the best (Ag), but it's more fun to play with for me.

	12-05-2004 07:16									#4
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Well since you said fav, I choose Industrial. I do not use it much, but it it saves me more work than the others.

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	12-05-2004 07:47									#5
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I really like seafaring. The trait I normally try to always play with is industrious just because it's a great trait, but I really like the seafaring trait.

	12-05-2004 17:15									#6
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Hmm...

I like Expansionist for the same reason Aeson does, namely that it makes the early-game a lot more thought-intensive. I also really enjoy playing Religious: it's like putting on a pair of really comfy shoes just before a long long trek (I hope that metaphor makes sense).

Overall, however, I would have to go with Agricultural. Currently I'm not entirely happy with it because: 1) it's overplayed, 2) people reload to get good starts then complain it's too powerful (this should not bother me, but for some reason it does), and 3) it is a bit too powerful. Nonetheless, for me it remains the most interesting (i.e. game-altering) trait. It adds focus to the early-game.

I find Seafaring to be boring, because it's all about exploiting the AI in trades made possible by your quick Curragh. Starting with Alphabet means that you'll almost always go for the Philo gambit, yawn, although I suppose my problem here is not really with Seafaring per se. Industrious also bugs me because it screws up my early-game math. Maybe I should play it more.

	12-05-2004 18:50									#7
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Tough question, especially the way it's worded.

Favorite? To me, that means "most fun". Probably industrious, scientific, or expansionist.

Obviously though, if I'm playing a game that I absolutely HAVE to win, then it's agricultural.

	12-05-2004 18:57									#8
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Probably a toss up between militaristic, religious, and seafaring.

Preferrably 2 of those in a combo.

	12-05-2004 19:08									#9
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quote: I also really enjoy playing Religious: it's like putting on a pair of really comfy shoes just before a long long trek (I hope that metaphor makes sense).

I hate anarchy nearly as much as I hate corruption (anarchy is obviously worse, but it's temporary, whereas corruption is ongoing), and I have always been a little nutty about keeping my citizens happy. Especially now that I have discovered the power of Communism in Conquests, I find the 1-turn anarchy very nice. Prior to that discovery, I'd make 1 switch: despotism -> republic. So at most I was saving what, 7 turns (that's still a big savings, though!). Now I could save 14.

-Arrian

	12-05-2004 19:24									#10
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Religious:

Ag is the best but..... Anarchy drives me nuts in the 2nd half of the game. I also like the culture boost from those cheap early temples.

	12-05-2004 19:25									#11
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See my series of threads for everyones opinions on the 'best' trait.

	12-05-2004 22:01									#12
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This is why I like the Celts... AGR and REL and an awesome UU.

	12-05-2004 22:29									#13
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I avoid Agr like the plague.

It almost feels like cheating...

	12-05-2004 22:37									#14
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx I avoid Agr like the plague. It almost feels like cheating...

Same here. Agr is unquestionably the most powerful trait, but I avoid it on purpose for that reason. It's TOO powerful.

	12-05-2004 23:35									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae ... Agricultural. ... people reload to get good starts then complain it's too powerful (this should not bother me, but for some reason it does),

	12-05-2004 23:44									#16
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Scientific, because it had no votes and I'm crazy about cheap libs & uni's.

In my games I now make 2 govt switches - Republic once I've finished any early wonder I was building, and Democracy when the unit and worker count gets expensive and I'll soon need fast RR as I won't have any coal in my statically-bordered civ. On Monarch level losing another half-dozen turns isn't critical.

On higher levels Religious gets more important.

	13-05-2004 00:19									#17
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I find myself sticking with Republic because the support costs usually end being significantly lower for me.

In the game I was playing last night, I think I was paying 46gpt on unit upkeep as a republic, but I had over 100 units. So as a Democracy, I'd be paying quite a bit more, which I think would more than cancel out the slightly lower corruption level.

The faster workers thing is nice, yeah, but I haven't yet thought it worth the anarchy (even the 1 turn religious anarchy).

-Arrian

edit: clearly just a difference in playstyle - you aren't conquering other civs like I tend to do, which gives me more free unit support.

	14-05-2004 06:18									#18
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I find myself looking forward to playing industrious civs these days and staying far away from agricultural. Scientific is also nice because of the cheap libraries and uni's.

I should really say religious, since I'm getting more into 2 government switches these days, but I'm trying to learn to live with 10-15 turns of anarchy per game I usually go into monarchy for a bit of blood and guts then move on to democracy - particularly when sing the AU mod which really kills republic for me. If I'm not using the mod I may go into republic for the whole game and be more careful about warfare.

	14-05-2004 07:27									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 I find myself looking forward to playing industrious civs these days and staying far away from agricultural.

Same here.

	14-05-2004 10:03									#20
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Industrial, then scientific.

	14-05-2004 20:06									#21
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Favourite: Ind.
Strongest: Agr.

I always play Random civs in Epic games these days - it started out as a way to get round my compulsive need to play Industrious civs with good UUs.

	19-05-2004 13:11									#22
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Why did this poll have a set time limit?

	19-05-2004 23:42									#23
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My favourite is: RANDOM



Set everything to random (no start-up re-loads either!) and have lots more fun...

	20-05-2004 02:50									#24
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That's not actually an answer to the question.

	23-05-2004 00:39									#25
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I'm a big fan of Random civ with Random oppoents on a totally Random map myself.

	23-05-2004 01:21									#26
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My deal is random civ with random opponents on a Huge or Standard map with all climate variables at the middle value.

But that doesn't make "random" an answer to the question "what is your favourite attribute?".

	23-05-2004 09:14									#27
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn I'm a big fan of Random civ with Random oppoents on a totally Random map myself.

You do this with random mods too?

	23-05-2004 09:49									#28
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I am so addicted to industrious. Its horrible.

	23-05-2004 17:08									#29
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That's why you should try out Random. Broke my addiction to Ind real quick.

	29-05-2004 01:47									#30
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I never choose a civ that is not industrious. Even with Conquests, I still need the fast workers.