12-05-2004 15:50									#1
	rush building: a magic world? Suffering from ads?

I have always found this rush building feature unfair because very unrealistic.

Neither money nor lashes on slave back can help you finish in one turn something that takes normally many many turns to do. And as for heroes, I said it is just as unlogical that they can perform this in the thread on hearoes and their abilities.

I suggest to modify this feature. Rush building must remain possible because it is indeed something real. But whether through buying or kicking asses, I think rush buying should be a mode a city can enter in so as to only double it's normal production rate.

Consumption in number of citizens should be debatted, while we can easily decide that the amount of money per turn is a factor of the number of shields already produced. If I'm not mistaken, in present rush buying, it costs 4 per shield. But that is to be determined according to the overall game balance.

Of course, rush buying in a far away city that undergoes corruption should lead to the same waste, so that corruption remains in proportion of the increase of production.

Rush building stops automatically once the building is built or the turn before if normal production is enough to finish the work.

	12-05-2004 21:19									#2
	Got spare money?

The government is always (the US government anyways) is having trouble with their projects, so what do they do? They throw money at it to get it done, they hire more workers, they get overtime, they get it done.

I say leave rush buying

	12-05-2004 22:17									#3
	Full PM-box? Change here!

remember that 1 turn still equals a certain number of years. So rush building just means you increase work hours, hire more people etc until you complete the project in the number of years equal to 1 turn.

	13-05-2004 02:50									#4
	Tired of ads?

Keep rushing, but make it more expensive.

	13-05-2004 03:00									#5
	Got spare money?

Keep rushing as it is.
But make it cheaper.
I don't have Civ3 anymore, but wasn't the exchange rate something like 8 gold for one shield? I'd rather like the 2 gold/credits for 1 shield/mineral, unless of course the project hasn't even accumulated 10 minerals/shields to it or so.

	13-05-2004 11:53									#6
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

To H Tower:
I'm not saying to cancel rush building. I just say more money shouldn't be magic and should merely double production rate.

To the Diplomat:
a good point you have there except that the game doesn't go by that reality. When in the beginning it takes you 10 turns to build a granary, and that those turns are 50 years long, that means you'd need half a millenium for that simple primitive building. While the same basic building in modern times still represents 10 turns of production of a newly created city (or conquered and reduced to size one), but that is only 10 years.
The game goes by turn logic and would need deep changes if it were to be time realistic in building things. The time correspondance is jut to remind us that things are accelerating as we progress and develop.
And in that turn logic, reducing building time of unit or building from 10 turns to 1 does look like a magic wand effect which I don't really like.

	15-05-2004 03:35									#7
	Increase Your PM Length

do we realy wana play like its is the real world

I like the escape, no major deal either way


my .02

	16-05-2004 20:26									#8
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

If you have enough money saved up, you should be able to rush anything you want. I consider it to be overtime, extra staff (like employing all people currently unemployed in your city), contracting out work to other cities to produce components for the major project, buying completed components from foreign powers, etc. Throw enough money at something and it can be completed quite quickly.

	17-05-2004 11:09									#9
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

a great example was the last big quake in the bay area of CA

When the freeway structure collapsed, the bidder gave his date
most said now way. At the end he had it down ahead of schedule, he received a bonus, which he paid out to the workers.

	18-05-2004 09:28									#10
	Full PM-box? Change here!

hi ,

leave it as it is

dont touch it

what would we do without it , ......


have a nice day

	18-05-2004 22:12									#11
	Tired of ads?

Leave it as it is. Its supriseing what people can acheive when they put their minds to it, and this is a neat little representation of that in the game.