13-05-2004 09:10									#1
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Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Pre-Turn Actions

What tech do we research next?

Military Orders
Roadkill: 6
Anthea: 9
Grog: 8
Ares': React to barbarian movement as per Togas' suggestion
Con: React to barbarian movement as per Togas' suggestion

Worker Orders
#1 Roads-R-Us, continue chopping (GK)
#2 Fred & Barny, continue mining (GK)

City Orders
#1 Apolyton; WF#4,8,9,18; Settler (in 2) (GK)
#2 Hypnos; WF#6; Barrack (in 8) (GK)

Diplomacy To Be Completed



Any Other Things To Be Done

Last edited by GodKing on 14-05-2004 at 03:48

	13-05-2004 12:06									#2
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On WF: Apolyton should switch off the forest this turn. It should keep working the cattle this turn and turn 40 since Hypnos cannot use it for faster growth without messing with poly's growth.

	13-05-2004 17:59									#3
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In the absence of MoI orders for some time, I was going to comment on exactly that, but was clearly beaten to it. This Alliance game with you will be FUN, Klo.

Looks like the only thing to do is for Poly to move from the forest to the roaded grass 7 of Hypnos. It then gains one extra food. That could allow Hypnos to use that Cow at some point for a turn without screwing with Poly's growth. ALso, an extra food may be useless, but it costs us nothing and may prove useFUL sometime.

Essentially that would mean the following MoI orders for this turn

Poly: Building Settler (complete next turn) WF on 4-8-10-18. Change to 4-10-11-18.

Hypnos: Building Barracks (complete in 7 turns). WF on 6. No change.


Con and Diomedes must stay where they are else Poly goes into disorder. We can move them NEXT turn when the settler is built.

	13-05-2004 18:32									#4
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Concerning Apolyton's WF:
It has 13 shields left to build the settler. When the WF is on the forest, it has 7spt. Settler complete in 2 turns with one wasted shield. With it on the roaded Bonus grass, it has 6spt. Settler complete in 3 turns with 5 wasted shields. Turns to grow are 5 with the forest and 4 with the grass. As it needs 10 food to grow, having Apo at 3fpt for all 4 turns is not needed (wastes us 2 food, or one if we allow Hynos to work it).

In any case, I think our best bet would be to leave it working the forest this turn, then move to the roaded bonus grass next turn. The end result would be Apolyton would have its one turn of 2fpt done and could go full bore on growth immediately and it will still finish the settler in two turns. No food will be wasted and no shields will be wasted.

	14-05-2004 03:51									#5
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I just received the save. Looking at it, I agree with Don above, keep working current tiles then change next turn.

Sorry about my absence lately. Buying a new house is taking much more of my time than I thought (remembered) it would. Also, the saves seem to be comming to my email after other are receiving it. Is there something about the system, or is it just my service provider? Anybody know?

	16-05-2004 03:04									#6
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Save is in. We will play it shortly in chat.

--Togas

	16-05-2004 03:32									#7
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Results from 2230bc

Played in chat at 10:15pm GMT using posted orders with Kloreep, Arnelos, E_T, Con (idle), and WIA (idle) present.

Results in Order

CEREMONIAL BURIAL completed. We begin research on MATHEMATICS

Units:
Ares Boys fortify in Hypnos

Roadkill moves 3 ... could not move 6 as CDG warrior was in the way.

Anthea moves 9

Grog moves 8 ... sees barbarians 8-8 from him.

Cities
WF in APOLYTON changed from 8 to 11. This gives us 3fpt, 6spt, no change in trade. This move changes a wasted shield into food.

All workers still busy.

No changes to slider made.

ISSUES OF NOTE
Settler will pop out next turn.

CDG does not have CB, Wheel, Masonry, Iron Working
PAL does not have CB

PAL is at size 6
BAT is at size 4
CDG is at size 2
GWT is at size 1

We are #3 in Pop, GNP, Manuf, Prod.
we are #4 in Area and Family size.

We are still strong to CDG and ave to PAL.

Our neighborhood barbarians appear to be very timid.

--Togas

	16-05-2004 03:41									#10
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BTW, make sure you always have and are working with the latest save. It looks to me like GK and Don were both working from 2310 BC rather than 2270 BC

	16-05-2004 20:03									#11
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Did we send CB to PAL??

	17-05-2004 00:02									#12
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We did not send CB to PAL. We can send it next turn.

--Togas

	17-05-2004 00:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Togas We did not send CB to PAL. We can send it next turn. --Togas

OK

	17-05-2004 15:07									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Concerning Apolyton's WF: It has 13 shields left to build the settler. When the WF is on the forest, it has 7spt. Settler complete in 2 turns with one wasted shield. With it on the roaded Bonus grass, it has 6spt. Settler complete in 3 turns with 5 wasted shields. Turns to grow are 5 with the forest and 4 with the grass. As it needs 10 food to grow, having Apo at 3fpt for all 4 turns is not needed (wastes us 2 food, or one if we allow Hynos to work it). In any case, I think our best bet would be to leave it working the forest this turn, then move to the roaded bonus grass next turn. The end result would be Apolyton would have its one turn of 2fpt done and could go full bore on growth immediately and it will still finish the settler in two turns. No food will be wasted and no shields will be wasted.

Don - have to say I am a little puzzled. I did not mean to suggest we move to the grass and KEEP it there. I only meant to suggest we do so for the one turn so we did not waste shields, and gained one food, thus allowing perhaps a wf reallocation benefiting Hypnos at some point.

I see that Togas did this anyway.