26-05-2004 22:30									#31
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quote: Originally posted by AAHZ wow great posts guys. i can only hope someone at firaxis SEES this thread and DOES something about all these bugs.

AAHZ, I am glad to see you are keeping the topic of bugs that need fixing alive, I do not think that crossing fingers and hoping is enough to ensure Fraxis devotes proper time to sorting things out.

You might want to look at this thread, especially the detailed summary Alexman provides in his updated 1st post.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=101501

Especially note the >OTHER BUGS (introduced in C3C) < paragraph at the end of his post

	26-05-2004 22:36									#32
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The rumored MGL bug is a MGL that can rush Great Wonders. (Perhaps among other oddities, I can't recall the details.) It's only been reported by 1 or 2 people though, and many have had bugless MGLs.

	26-05-2004 22:46									#33
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Interesting. Because I tried to rush a GW with a MGL on accident. It didn’t work. The conditions for this bug to work must be very specific I take it.

	26-05-2004 22:53									#34
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quote: Originally posted by JimMac AAHZ, I am glad to see you are keeping the topic of bugs that need fixing alive, I do not think that crossing fingers and hoping is enough to ensure Fraxis devotes proper time to sorting things out.

youre very welcome indeed. unfortunately starting saturday morning i am going on vacation and probably wont be back for 2 weeks. as i wont be here to maintain this thread, i urge everyone to keep this thread alive, and to continue finding and posting bugs here. hopefully the patch will come out before i get back!

quote: Originally posted by JimMac You might want to look at this thread, especially the detailed summary Alexman provides in his updated 1st post. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=101501 Especially note the >OTHER BUGS (introduced in C3C) < paragraph at the end of his post

thanks for the link. good place for it, for IF firaxis sees this thread they can see other bugs not covered here.

	28-05-2004 16:03									#35
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I'm not sure if it can really be called a bug and whether it was already reported or not, but there is an inconsistency between the F11 demographics screen and the vicotry progress screen. The demographics screen often shows my population number and that i'm #1 in the world, but the victory progress one tells that I have, for example, 20% of the world population and my strongest rival is Sumeria with 25%.

	28-05-2004 20:58									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Eli I'm not sure if it can really be called a bug and whether it was already reported or not, but there is an inconsistency between the F11 demographics screen and the vicotry progress screen. The demographics screen often shows my population number and that i'm #1 in the world, but the victory progress one tells that I have, for example, 20% of the world population and my strongest rival is Sumeria with 25%.

i will take a look at this Eli, and if you think it is a big problem you can tell firaxis about it. and while youre at it tell them about all these other bugs as well. i have already done so, but i believe that if more people keep bugging (pun intended) firaxis about this they will finally give us at least a little bit of respect and give us SOME sort of response in all of this.

FINAL NOTE: as i am preparing to go on vacation tomorrow this will be my final post in this thread. i TRULY thank ALL of you for all the wonderful posts about these bugs, and i urge you to keep this thread alive. or if Mark G could be so kind as to TOP this thread for a while so firaxis can see it and DO something about the bugs i and all of you have found. happy civing!

	12-06-2004 08:43									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Eli I'm not sure if it can really be called a bug and whether it was already reported or not, but there is an inconsistency between the F11 demographics screen and the vicotry progress screen. The demographics screen often shows my population number and that i'm #1 in the world, but the victory progress one tells that I have, for example, 20% of the world population and my strongest rival is Sumeria with 25%.

Though relatively minor, this is definitely a bug. I've seen it on several occasions.

Edit: I stand corrected based on LC's post below. However, I don't see the reason for the difference, since it's just confusing.

	14-06-2004 11:33									#38
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any idea if the wizards of Atari / Firaxis will read or even respond to this thread

	14-06-2004 14:17									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Eli I'm not sure if it can really be called a bug and whether it was already reported or not, but there is an inconsistency between the F11 demographics screen and the vicotry progress screen. The demographics screen often shows my population number and that i'm #1 in the world, but the victory progress one tells that I have, for example, 20% of the world population and my strongest rival is Sumeria with 25%.

It's not a bug. The demographics go by the city population numbers (10k for a size 1 city with no stored food, and so on), while the victory screen goes by the sum of all city sizes.

	14-06-2004 19:08									#40
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It's been said elsewhere, but since nobody mentioned it here yet, how about the fact that the AI doesn't seem to use armies.

I actually played the scenario rise of rome (as rome) and when I reached carthage, there was an army there with one unit in it. The city was full of units, but the AI did not load them and never moved the army.

	14-06-2004 21:46									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot any idea if the wizards of Atari / Firaxis will read or even respond to this thread

i honestly would not mind them responding if only they READ this thread and FIX the problems mentioned.

ALSO ive heard mention of it but what exactly is the submarine bug?

	15-06-2004 01:26									#42
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quote: Originally posted by AAHZ i honestly would not mind them responding if only they READ this thread and FIX the problems mentioned. ALSO ive heard mention of it but what exactly is the submarine bug?

The sub-bug is when an AI civ accidentally runs into one of your submarines and automatically declares war on you, even if you were allies or had a mutual protection pact.

	17-06-2004 10:35									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Argos65987 The sub-bug is when an AI civ accidentally runs into one of your submarines and automatically declares war on you, even if you were allies or had a mutual protection pact.

This comes about since Subs are supposedly invisible to many unit types.

	24-06-2004 00:32									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot any idea if the wizards of Atari / Firaxis will read or even respond to this thread

Fortunately they really don't need to read this specific thread, as they know these things already.

Unfortunately. well, I think you know where that is headed...