16-05-2004 22:47									#1
	I'm a newbie....what is NCC? Got spare money?

Well, from some sources I've seen this this called the no city challenge. Is this an real challenge and how does one survive without even cities?

OCC is bad enough....

	17-05-2004 00:07									#2
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I've never heard of NCC. Without a city, how would you get culture or build the spaceship? And you have to build the UN to be in on the vote if you don't have a large empire.

	17-05-2004 00:22									#3
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There was something in CivII about never building a city - you had to use your starting Settler(s) to pop huts, and hope for an advanced tribe. Someone might be insane enough to try it in CivIII too.

	17-05-2004 00:43									#4
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Ah, that makes more sense. In essence not so much a no city challenge, but a don't use your starting settler challenge.

I know what civ trait I'd be picking for this in Civ3...

	17-05-2004 01:40									#5
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	17-05-2004 01:41									#6
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hah, that woyld be the best trait for this game.

	17-05-2004 03:35									#7
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You could win on a Pangaea without a city... with the right luck from huts. There was a bug where if you didn't have a Palace and captured a city you would have no corruption. That was discovered by killing an AI with Warriors from huts.

I think you can do it in SMAC too as the Gaians (even on a non-pangaea). Capture mind worms. It's been a while since I played Civ II, but I think you could do it there too. Civ I only had the World Map right? No way to get a boat, so no chance.

	19-05-2004 23:32									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Aeson Civ I only had the World Map right? No way to get a boat, so no chance.

It did have random maps- I tried it. Got two out of four civs, the other one on the continent was too powerful and in the end it was a meagre barabarian legion that felled me...

	23-05-2004 16:18									#9
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Wow. There's testing the limits and then there's plain whacked-out-of-your-skull-bored-I-know-let's-try-this-totally-bizarre-concept.

Does anyone have any stories about trying this? Screenshots? SAVES? That would be hiarious and awe-inspiring all at once.

	23-05-2004 16:33									#10
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I've never even tried the OCC ...

	24-05-2004 02:29									#11
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I know I conquered the world a few times without building a single unit in Civ II (you could get good enough units from huts), same in SMAC (mindworms and speeders from pods). Don't think I ever tried without building a city the whole time, but the general principle would be the same.

The only question I have is support, as it's been so long since I played either that I have no idea how it would work with no cities.

	30-05-2004 15:31									#12
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Jeepus No city challenge, screw that. I don't have the guts to try a once city challenge.

	30-05-2004 22:09									#13
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@Aeson: In CivII, if you have no cities, all units you get from huts should be NON, so support should be a non-issue.

	30-05-2004 22:44									#14
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Why not try to survive with your settler untill the end. Thus not that you have to win, but just have to save your settler....!?

	31-05-2004 01:14									#15
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Sounds boring.

	31-05-2004 01:24									#16
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OCC sounds boring to me as well
People who play those kind of games must be bored (and good of course )