18-05-2004 23:56									#31
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quote: So did we 1998, after they did nothing substantial in 16 years. The SPD can't do it either, as clearly visible.

You should have voted in the CDU back in 2002. 4 years was enough to figure out that the SPD/Green coalition wasn't going to hack it. Switch sides every 4 years until they get it right. No Hitler required.

	19-05-2004 00:00									#32
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May be that would work. But you won't get that in the head of Joe Sixpack, and his vote counts just as much as the vote of a graduated economist. As long as we don't get some real leader (not necessarily a new Hitler... a Thatcher would probably be enough ), Germany is doomed.

	19-05-2004 00:10									#33
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quote: But you won't get that in the head of Joe Sixpack, and his vote counts just as much as the vote of a graduated economist.

Trust the electoral judgment of Joe Sixpack. It is no worse than most highly educated people.

Yes, a Thatcher would do nicely.

	19-05-2004 00:14									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Trust the electoral judgment of Joe Sixpack. It is no worse than most highly educated people.

Look how I got you from berating the German voter to praising him?

	19-05-2004 00:24									#35
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No, I am praising Joe Sixpack, but berating the voters.

	19-05-2004 00:46									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Saras Lithuania pwnz all with 7.5% 1Q gdp growth. Ha ha.

Such high GDP growth is quite common in 3rd world nations.

	19-05-2004 01:30									#37
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No it isn't.

	19-05-2004 01:36									#38
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DanS - all of your criticism of the German voter applies to US voters... in spades.

-Arrian

	19-05-2004 01:37									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Colon No it isn't.

Party pooper.

	19-05-2004 01:39									#40
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BTW Dan, regarding Germany. IIRC unemployment according to (comparable) ILO standards is about 7% in western Germany (give or take a couple of tenths) while it's twice as much in eastern Germany. So I wonder how tight labour laws really are. They don't seem to be so for a developed region, yet they do for a developing one. You may be overlooking the issue of reunification a bit too much.

	19-05-2004 01:40									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Party pooper.

I'm sorry, but I prefer to maintain a monopoly on putting down Litaland.

	19-05-2004 01:40									#42
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How high are unemployment figures, throughout western europe, generally?

	19-05-2004 01:44									#43
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IIRC unemployment according to ILO standards in the EU is 8.8%. I'd look it up at http://europa.eu.int/comm/eurostat/ , but I can't access the site. (normally speaking you can check rates for individual countries as well in there)

	19-05-2004 02:10									#44
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What are your calculations for the former E. Germany?

	19-05-2004 05:25									#45
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Good question. Allow me to think about it.

	19-05-2004 07:12									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph What do you expect, with those clowns we have in charge?

Hey, I don't like the French any more than you do.

	19-05-2004 07:54									#47
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quote: Originally posted by ElTigre How ungrateful! We started a world war to get you out of the Great Depression...

we may be going into another one soon, can we count on your support again?

	19-05-2004 11:30									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Such high GDP growth is quite common in 3rd world nations.

True, but also in kickass New Europe coutries.

	19-05-2004 12:29									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Saras True, but also in kickass New Europe coutries.

You know, that given a constant growth of 7.5% it takes you 191 years to get from 0.000001 to 1, don't you? Oh, and before I forget it... considering what Colon wrote recently, the car alarm device industry should be booming, right? Or are you importing those?

	19-05-2004 17:15									#50
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Wow, they teach you math

It's 20 years max until we catch up. That's without the help of your own politicians screwing your respective countries to bring the average down

	19-05-2004 18:37									#51
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quote: It's 20 years max until we catch up.

Doesn't take long.

	19-05-2004 20:08									#52
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word

	19-05-2004 21:45									#53
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On a sidenote, Schroeder got slapped in his face yesterday by a German unemployed.

	19-05-2004 22:38									#54
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Solution - make New Europe pay more taxes.

	20-05-2004 06:15									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Saras True, but also in kickass New Europe coutries.

New Europe

	20-05-2004 06:16									#57
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In other news, Internet grocers are doing extremley well, very quietly:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/intern...y.ap/index.html

Nice to see things come back around from the dark side.

	20-05-2004 08:35									#58
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Hey, Sten's extensive Webvan holdings should have been something, after all!

Internet grocery shopping is great! Peapod.

	21-05-2004 05:11									#59
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is a bond trader. He didn't have any Webvan stock. He just had their debentures.

	30-05-2004 07:56									#60
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He held some debt of theirs? Didn't know that. I was just making a joke about the stock.