20-05-2004 15:53									#1
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I never play the island maps 'cause I don't have the patience to sink so many ships but after hearing the virtues of the English, I thought I'd give it a go.

Anyway, I'm just researching poly and, usually, I'd go for monarchy - demo or commie depending on whether I want to fight or build. But now I'm wondering, if my empire is spread out (it's a high water map and the islands are very tiny (3- 5 cities max per landmass) would repub be better than monarch or perhaps feudalism? I have NO luxs or iron on my island or either of the neighboring ones that I can reach. (I do have horsies though, whippee...)

	20-05-2004 18:12									#2
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I recommend Republic in pretty much all situation, so I guess I'll suggest you try that.

	21-05-2004 01:52									#3
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I edit war weariness to low in democracy, so democracy all the way!!!!

	21-05-2004 02:01									#4
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You should give Democracy also 10 units per city free support. Much more fun. A 10.10.10 warrior in the ancient age is also a nice to have.

On topic: If you appreciate a little bit roleplaying, it's Monarchy hands down. I mean, it's England, right?

	21-05-2004 02:34									#5
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I love playing England on archi maps... I definately agree that Republic is the way to go.

	21-05-2004 07:44									#6
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In continental games I use Feudalism in times of war, but in this case I think Republic should be the government of choice for any time.

	21-05-2004 11:48									#7
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quote: Originally posted by spy14 I edit war weariness to low in democracy, so democracy all the way!!!!

I'm sure you download trainers for all games you play as well. And proudly report a win everytime

	21-05-2004 15:42									#8
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I suck.

I gave up on this win with England aspiration 'cause I can't take Madrid which has 2 wonders! I land as many troops as my 3 decent towns can make (I only have 5 towns but the farther away islands don't make anything) and take out a couple defenders but they always have one left. I can't even land outside their boundaries to stockpile troops before attacking since they've expanded to the shore.

And two other civs which are 3 ocean stops via galley away have declared war because I won't pay tribute. Not even gonna pretend to try to attack them. And the Byz got the GLight two turns before ME!!!!

Obviously I'm doing something wrong since it's only monarch level and I suck...

	21-05-2004 21:48									#9
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I'm sure you download trainers for all games you play as well. And proudly report a win everytime

Such a shame that you're wrong then. I tend to complete games, then have some fun with some cheats, and er, cant ever recall looking at trainers/walkthroughs.

Ooh yeah!! I got stuck on monkey island a few years back so checked one then!!

	21-05-2004 21:50									#10
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And returning to the original point, I believe the war weariness in democracy is set too high (sure we have lots of protests about wars, but i've never seen a city shut down all its production for a year). I can tolerate it as long as I have Sistine Chapel, lots of Cathedrals, and maybe Universal Sufferage for good measure

	21-05-2004 22:50									#11
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Oh, ummm... I just clued in to what trainers were. Makes me think of underpants. (Not mine though...)

How do you do a walkthrough for Civ? That'd be one looong walkthrough. hehehehehe

{where can I get me one of dem dere walkthroughs?}

	21-05-2004 22:54									#12
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mimi, you need no trainer nor do you need a walkthrough (there is none). Continue to discuss your problems in the Strategy forum, as you started already.

	21-05-2004 23:41									#13
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The strategy forum is far and away your best bet, but i've also noticed the occasional good tip in the stories section.

As for trainers and underpants ??

	22-05-2004 01:02									#14
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You have 5 towns and some of them are on other land masses? You only have 3 towns on your homeland?

Is this a 5CC run? I would think not, so post your current save and your start save, if you can so we can see what is going on.

I would think that if your start location was so small as to hold only 3 cities, you would start a new game. It is one thing to play out a bad start for players that play at deity or sid, but if monarch is your normal level, that is a bad start.

IOW if you need a challenge, then play a bad start, otherwise go for a reasonable one and have fun.

	25-05-2004 07:53									#15
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there is a map, promised land
Maximum cities on starting landmasses are 4 vmxa
The computer usually starts off with 2 citites max. there are 12 civs and each are the same size but in the middle of the map, there is a continent 12 times your landmass. Only a layer of mountains, a wall of barbarian continents (completely covered by barbarians and barbarian cities) and only a small narrow path big enough for two ships to pass through
Did i mention constant barbarian uprisings
like 30(im not exxaggerating) galleys created that hunt you down ina pack every time there is an uprising. And the barbarians are restless.
Fun map try it sometime