15-11-2000 20:18									#1
	My ¥3 bout the Forum changes Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

not realy an objection, just some observations on the anounced forum changes

*CTP-Help and CTP-Strategy will merge with CTP-General

I suspect that you could almost compress all of the old CTP boards down to just one or 2 boards by the end of the year.

* AC-Help and AC-Strategy will merge with AC-General
* CTP2-Suggestions will be archived

hmm, i dont realy visit thoes bords, so im not comenting, its just odd that your combining 3 topics like that, will you Arhive the old boards before you combine?

* CTP2-Suggestions will be archived

Granted, your further away from Launch with CIV3, but i almost think you should do the same for that board, Fraxis probably has already lockded down 99.9999% of the things they are going ot try to impliment in CIV3 by now.

* New CTP2-Stategy, CTP2-Multiplaying, CTP2-Creation, CTP2-Help forums will be created.

I still think you should keep a seperat thread for Game MODs, so that you can discus difrent tactics (ect) needed for MODs without confusing newbies to the game

*Changes will star tomorrow. You may use the Apolyton forum for comments on this

Drakenred

	16-11-2000 10:16									#2
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

I suspect that CTP may move to the "oldies" section within the next year or so.

	15-11-2000 23:30									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Father Beast on 11-15-2000 12:16 PM</font>
I suspect that CTP may move to the "oldies" section within the next year or so.
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posibly the only real reason left to play C:CTP is to play the MedMod Vertion to the Alien life project

If that

	16-11-2000 02:14									#4
	Put an end to popups!

You would think they would finally add the Great Library idea.

	16-11-2000 02:16									#5
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Or maybe ASK us for our ideas.

	16-11-2000 02:47									#6
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

great, now we've become "they"....

	16-11-2000 04:13									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 11-15-2000 04:47 PM</font>
great, now we've become "they"....
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It might have something to do with the fact that you've been so unresponsive to people's objections to the changes you've made to the forums. There have been many objections and complaints about the one thread every eight hours change. People have recommended solutions, and there is even the source code for changing it to three threads a day in the FreeCiv forum, but you have not made any changes. There have been many complaints about the new forums page layout being unusable. People have recommended solutions to the problem that would have been easy to implement, as the code to do so already exists. And again, nothing has been done. Given your recent actions, people feel that the changes are being done to them, rather than for them. It is not surprising that you have gone from being part of "us" to being "them". Perhaps you should consider listening to people's complaints about the forum design, and making some positive changes as a result.

	16-11-2000 04:24									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Lews Therìn on 11-15-2000 06:13 PM</font>
There have been many objections and complaints about the one thread every eight hours change. People have recommended solutions, and there is even the source code for changing it to three threads a day in the FreeCiv forum, but you have not made any changes.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>and there have many people who said "keep it just like that"
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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>There have been many complaints about the new forums page layout being unusable. People have recommended solutions to the problem that would have been easy to implement, as the code to do so already exists. And again, nothing has been done.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>and again most of the people said "i like it"

and the huge majority of posters just didnt say anything at all

just because some people are more vocal than others it doesnt mean they are more than those who disagree

	16-11-2000 04:32									#9
	Full PM-box? Change here!

i'm one of the "keep it just like that" and "i like it" posters, guess i'm not vocal enough though. maybe i should use caps lock and the bold tags more often

as for the forum changes, i'm only affected by the civ2 changes. merging the help and general forums is a good idea. sometimes the help section doesn't get traffic and that may discourage people.

	16-11-2000 04:51									#10
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Lews Therìn on 11-15-2000 06:13 PM</font>
It might have something to do with the fact that you've been so unresponsive to people's objections to the changes you've made to the forums.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>Perhaps he's been busy playing CtP2 so that we can all have previews to read?


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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>There have been many objections and complaints about the one thread every eight hours change. People have recommended solutions, and there is even the source code for changing it to three threads a day in the FreeCiv forum, but you have not made any changes.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>It's a MINOR problem for SOME people in the Off Topic Forum only. Not exactly high priority, I'm sure the admins have more important stuff to do around the site at the moment (what was that game again, that was just released? <e> ), and will get to it when they have more time on their hands.


<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>There have been many complaints about the new forums page layout being unusable.
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>And many people said it was nice...


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<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>people feel that the changes are being done to them, rather than for them. It is not surprising that you have gone from being part of "us" to being "them".
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>There are only few people who mentioned that they "felt" that way. Some said it was nice, some said they didn't care, but the vast majority didn't make any comment at all. So how come you seem to know the people's opinion on these matters so well?
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Narck (edited November 15, 2000).]</font>

	16-11-2000 05:27									#11
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

You would think they would finally add the Great Library idea. etc.

We are extremely busy with Apolyton, yes, but also with other things in our lives and, unfortunately but not surprisingly, university is very demanding on one's time especially as one nears the end of a semester and mid-terms/exams creep up.

We are doing the best that we can.

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Dan; Apolyton CS

	17-11-2000 04:24									#12
	Increase Your PM Length

I have a solution! Let's start an Electorial College! Then we can have a deadlock and they can declare martial law and then we will have to obey their every order.

My first aggravation-induced sardonic post!