25-05-2004 00:18									#1
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I'm quite suprised we did not already have this thread up and running.

This was the openning PM I plan to send to Sunshine. Could you all comment on it for integrety and languge please?

quote: Team Sun Shine, I have recently been assigned as foreign ambassador to team Sun Shine,and you can contact me with a PM or by email (chris@jackos.f2s.com, if you don't already have it). And to business: We are researching Invention atm, and were wondering if you would like to place an offer for it. We are willing to accept a tech for tech, or tech for gold (or combination thereof). Another note is that we are interested in a non-interference pact, so you don't interfere with out continent and vice versa. Contact me if and when you have a reply, krill

EDIT: Sent the PM to Togas, wh seems to be their "foreign secretary"

	25-05-2004 02:12									#2
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Looks good to me

	25-05-2004 02:27									#3
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Thanks Krill.

-Arrian

	25-05-2004 02:30									#4
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hey, I was getting a bad consience from not helping the team out, so I decided to take the innitiative...

But thank me if I do a good job

	23-06-2004 23:43									#5
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Sent to SS

quote: Hi SunShine, How are you? we were wondering who your current turn player was, and who we should send future diplomatic messages to, and perhaps we could bring each other up to speed on whats happening on our own Continents, -krill Cake Or Death?

	24-06-2004 15:47									#6
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From SS

quote: Krill, The current turn player for Sunshine is Trip. You can continue to send diplo messages to me or send them to him if I take too long to get back to you. --Togas

	23-09-2004 22:04									#7
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From Togas:

quote: Greetings from across the sea! We on team Sunshine are looking to aquire Invention and are wondering if you might have that knowledge. If so, we would be willing to buy or trade for it. Please let us know. Thanks! --Togas

I will post my opinion after my PBEMs are played and sent. Running late today.

	24-09-2004 22:31									#8
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Do we have the rights on that one? Or does Tabemono?

-Arrian

	25-09-2004 14:08									#9
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Not sure, we'll have to wade through the history to check. Python got the same message from SS, btw.

	25-09-2004 14:10									#10
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Hey Krill, sorry to be a pedant, but you miss-spelt 'too' in the second word of your sig.

	25-09-2004 14:23									#11
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OK, I checked. On T125 (70bc) we discovered Invention, but it was joint funded by Tabemono and Python. So I guess the best deal is cash from SS split 3 ways - if Tabemono are into that.

	26-09-2004 19:11									#12
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Ah, the humiliation...Thanks for the heads up

	01-10-2004 22:42									#13
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quote: Krill, We would like to know if Team Cake or Death wants to make any future tech trades with Team Sunshine. We will have Theology shortly and are looking to aquire Invention and the technology that follows it. Do you have Invention or any of the subsequent techs? Please let us know if you want to do any trades. --Togas

Hello, do we have any answer to that PM??

	01-10-2004 22:50									#14
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quote: Togas (and members of SS), I am sorry for the slow response, but All CoD is capable of doing right now is playing the save (only 3 active members, Arrian, CH and myself). Cort Haus is moving flat this weekend, so any final decision is going to have to wait a while. My apologies, but our team is effectively GS minus a few players, so it takes a while to get an answer out of the team. Krill, (CoD)

Is this an OK reply that I can fire off asap? and we really need that answer.

	06-10-2004 23:35									#15
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Hello, I know CH is not around, but can I have your decision Arrian? I really need to send an answer to Togas tonight, since I won't be in until Friday evening.

	08-10-2004 14:04									#16
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quote: Togas, Our apologies for the delayed reply on the subject of tech trades. I have been moving flat and have only just got connected with a pay-as-you-go dialup until the broadband is sorted. Unfortunately we are not in a position to trade Invention directly, as it was a joint effort by a number of teams, one of whom we ourselves are having difficulty getting in touch with - seems a bit of as feature of the DG2 atm. However, we are warm to the principle of trading tech with SS, and if we can nail down the situation with regards to the commercial rights for Invention, we might be able to get back to you with a suggestion - though if you need to research it yourselves rather than having to wait for an answer then fair enough, as we can't offer any promises atm. May the sun shine on your faces and the shadows fall behind you. Regards, -Cort

	01-11-2004 03:11									#17
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quote: Hi Togas, The other teams sharing the commercial rights have agreed on SS buying Invention. I'm not sure what the price would be offhand, but are you still interested? If so, hopefully we can come to an agreement. Regards, -Cort

	11-12-2004 07:03									#18
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from Trip.

quote: Greetings from Team Sunshine. Thanks for clearing out the box. My team wishes to inquire about possible tech trades. We complete Theology in a few turns, and are willing to trade it for either Invention or for Gunpowder and some gold along with a no-trade agreement on both sides, of course. I understand that Python and CoD researched Invention and possibly Gunpowder collectively, so perhaps a 3-team deal can be worked out, with the Python-CoD Alliance will make an offer with further compensation to Sunshine to allow the transfer of Theology to both teams. Thanks, hope to hear back soon. Trip Leader Team Sunshine

my reply

quote: Greetings Team Sunshine! Great to hear from you. May your light and radiance continue to bless our world! Yes! As long as the Furry Fiends don't get their Monkey Mitts on Invention before they are down to one city we are in principle keen to embark upon some such trade. The only delay is that the Large Round Orange team, with whom teams CoD and Python share the commercial rights to Invention, has so far refrained from replying to our messages on this subject. Hopefully this is because they just didn't get round to it rather than a policy of not talking to us anymore Might you be interested in a deal where you traded Theology for Invention to one team with a 20-turn NTA on Theology and a no-Monkey clause on Invention? That way only one team could benefit imediately from your Theology, but the other two would get it eventually. An alternative might be a variant on your suggestion - where the three teams pay you a cash supplement for Theo now. Anyway, I'll put it to our forum and again to Tabemono, and hopefully we can swing this deal. Cheers, -Cort

	11-12-2004 07:17									#19
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from Trip:

quote: So the THREE of you researched Invention jointly? Sheesh. What about Gunpowder? A deal may be worked out so that Sunshine acquires both techs and all three end up with Theology as well. Perhaps you can run that by Tabemono and Python.

my reply:

quote: Only CoD & Tabemono researched Gunpowder, but we had to trade away our commercial rights so we could give it to Python asap and get on with the war. Basically Tabemono are entitled to full rights on that one. We might have got ourselves a better deal but it would have taken forever to work out and negotiate, and with no immediate cash alternative we had to get on with it.

and back from Trip

quote: You guys sure made it easy to break into your exclusive little club. In any case, I've PMed both Tabemono and Python as well, and perhaps we can all come to a deal soon - it will likely be at least a week's real time before we finish the tech anyways.

	11-12-2004 07:29									#20
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My comments - Trip's right that shared research can make for some wierd deal-making later, but it got us the techs we need.

Getting Invention and Gunpowder for Theology somehow sounds a too-good deal for Sunshine, even if 3 civs get Theo. That's why I talked about deals for Invention instead, but he was gunning for Gunpowder. We should try and get Theology though to keep in the loop - and if Python get it now they could research something more interesting than Monarchy. Having said, we might need Monarchy when the going gets really rough.