26-05-2004 18:07									#1
	Can MGL's rush a Palace? Tired of ads?

I'm considering moving my Palace in my current game. Can anyone tell me if a Military Great Leader can rush a Palace? Seems like they should be able to since a Palace is considered an improvement not a wonder. But I just want to make sure because if not then I need to change my strategy. Also, what is the correct cost of a Palace? The value in the Civolopedia does not seem right.

	26-05-2004 18:27									#2
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Yes. Small wonders (Palace, FP, Heroic Epic, etc) can be rushed by MGLs.

The Palace's cost depends on the size of your empire. I believe it tops out at 1000 shields.

-Arrian

	26-05-2004 18:55									#3
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Are you sure? I don't think a Palace can be rushed by a MGL.

	26-05-2004 19:09									#4
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Yes, it can. I'm sure.

[disclaimer]unless this was changed in a recent patch and I didn't notice the change in the readme, which is highly unlikely[/disclaimer]

-Arrian

	26-05-2004 19:28									#5
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Wow - I can think of a few times when I wished I'd known that.

	27-05-2004 14:06									#6
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I have rushed palace with a MGL in both 1.15b and 1.22f.

	27-05-2004 16:00									#7
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I'm very certain that a palace can be rushed in 1.22 with a MGL
(applies equally to minor wonders such as heroic epic, forbidden palace, etc)

	29-05-2004 09:34									#8
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If the palace hasn't reached the 1000 shield maximum you should wait until you have taken any other cities that turn before you rush it. If the palace cost increases after rushing, you cannot attempt to rush the balance, even with a MGL.

	29-05-2004 17:26									#9
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Not sure if I got that one. Are you saying that if I rush the palace with a MGL, and conquer(or build) additional cities the same turn, the palace cost will rise so I still have fill the rest manually?

	29-05-2004 21:58									#10
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What I haven't seen mentioned is that the Palace isn't a small wonder, but an improvement. It could be MGL-rushed either way, but I wanted to make sure that was straight.

	30-05-2004 02:42									#11
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Yup, rushing causes you to have current number of shields needed to complete it.

quote: Originally posted by bongo Not sure if I got that one. Are you saying that if I rush the palace with a MGL, and conquer(or build) additional cities the same turn, the palace cost will rise so I still have fill the rest manually?