30-05-2004 23:36									#31
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Yes, I make a polite and reasonable request -- maybe I could have phrased it better but I certainly wasn't flaming -- and I get derided.

- Kef

	30-05-2004 23:36									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master When you choose to select a governor, there is a button at the top that says "Apply to all cities". At least, that is what I can remember

Have you or anyone else ever tried a whole game with a Governor..just to see how it plays out?

Just asking is all!
Oh..and see..no attachment!

Grandpa Troll

	30-05-2004 23:39									#34
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quote: Originally posted by furrykef Yes, I make a polite and reasonable request -- maybe I could have phrased it better but I certainly wasn't flaming -- and I get derided. - Kef

Governor Grandpa Troll..is being reasonable and yes was having fun..and well..will "curtail" attachments so as to not offend anyone or make anyone have to be annoyed..

Ok..Governors..looks like to the best of assumptions that very limited use is best?

Ok..I will give it a go!

Thanks

Grandpa "Deriding-&-Deposting-MINUS-attachments-"Troll

	30-05-2004 23:41									#35
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Governors are suited to people who are new to the game, or are uninterested in anything except moving units.

	30-05-2004 23:42									#36
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Sorry...it's been forever since I've been here, so I'm having trouble fitting back in :P

- Kef

	30-05-2004 23:46									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Governors are suited to people who are new to the game, or are uninterested in anything except moving units.

GREAT!

Thats where I have been headed

I am a long time Call To power player and trying to learn all about CIVIII Conquests!

Maybe for now use them until get my feet a little more wet?

The basic system is a bit different from CTP but will get the hang of it!

Ok..Good answer!

and all is ok will help dispose of proper posts with a proper attachment at a proper time & juncture!

(J/K)!!

Grandpa Troll

	30-05-2004 23:47									#38
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I have no clue what you are talking about furrykef

	31-05-2004 00:01									#39
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Quote whatever you don't understand and I'll explain...

(EDIT: Whoa! I graduated to Warlord status! )

	31-05-2004 07:01									#40
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Furrykef:

Grandpa Troll's user name is Grandpa Troll and he is living up to his name in this thread.

	31-05-2004 07:20									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber Furrykef: Grandpa Troll's user name is Grandpa Troll and he is living up to his name in this thread.

Thts another reason I am trying to learn about CIVIII Conquests ..because it seems that this game has a lot of SMART (@$$) people playing!

Now..back to the thread context..

I have found the governors to be of use thus far in my new life as a civIII Conquest players!

I do appreciate the help and as for my nic..it was meant as a joke when I started as TROLL and changed when I became a Grandfather..

No harm meant to anyone and no I aint Trolling..just posting as usual..

Ok..I think its time I moved on..unless someone else wants to contine some playful banter?

Peace

Grandpa "No Harm meant-No attachment-sent" Troll

	18-06-2004 03:15									#42
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I have my governors set to "manage moods" because I find that equivalent to clicking on the center square of each city at the end of the turn... (automatic placement of citizens) .I did that all the time anyway, so this saves me a lot of time.

The only time I don't go with what the computer seems to think is the optimal placement is, well, when I don't. For those cities I wish to make an exception and place the citizens myself, it is easy enough to turn off the governor there.

	18-06-2004 04:05									#43
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Happiness.

	18-06-2004 04:12									#44
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I am playing a game and posting under the CIVIII Stories. I have to say i am thus far impressed with the AI in The Conquests at least. I have set my governors for managing moods as unhappiness is (or was running rampant)

But strangely, now many of my cities are starving (have starvation attacks)

Size 4 or more..

Maybe it was having the granaries wonder (Pyramids) become obsolete????

Odd, it seems to have happened in most of my cities, even them outside of the warzone (having ai pillageing my improvements!! )

Peace
Gramps

	18-06-2004 08:13									#45
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I think I'm seeing that more than usual too. It seems to be managable so far.

	18-06-2004 08:25									#46
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1. The Pyramids don't become obsolete, and granaries don't help the amount of food harvested each turn, so it's more likely that in striving to keep people happy, your governor is assigning entertainers to the point that food is dropping below 2x the city size.

2. That's just one more reason the luxury slider is such a powerful tool in the early game. Use it as much as is feasible to keep all your citizens working tiles. A more detailed breakdown is available in the Must Read Threads over on the strat forum, but the gist of it is that if bumping the slider 10% keeps you from having to assign entertainers in a city, the extra gold that would-be entertainer brings in by working a tile will pay for that 10% in that city. On top of that, you get the shields and, most importantly, food from that citizen.

	18-06-2004 16:34									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi 1. The Pyramids don't become obsolete, and granaries don't help the amount of food harvested each turn, so it's more likely that in striving to keep people happy, your governor is assigning entertainers to the point that food is dropping below 2x the city size. 2. That's just one more reason the luxury slider is such a powerful tool in the early game. Use it as much as is feasible to keep all your citizens working tiles. A more detailed breakdown is available in the Must Read Threads over on the strat forum, but the gist of it is that if bumping the slider 10% keeps you from having to assign entertainers in a city, the extra gold that would-be entertainer brings in by working a tile will pay for that 10% in that city. On top of that, you get the shields and, most importantly, food from that citizen.

Thanks

I am enjoying this game and well, my pride that I surely thought was lost has been found at the ripe old age of 45 so I am having to learn this game!!

Ok..Ill keep tweaking and thanks for the much needed info!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

	19-06-2004 06:59									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll I am playing a game and posting under the CIVIII Stories. I have to say i am thus far impressed with the AI in The Conquests at least. I have set my governors for managing moods as unhappiness is (or was running rampant) But strangely, now many of my cities are starving (have starvation attacks) Size 4 or more..

This typically happens in republic and democracies at war, the governor will starve your cities if needed but in the long run the governor will be unable to handle the WW and your cities will start to revolt.

quote: Maybe it was having the granaries wonder (Pyramids) become obsolete????

Would be an interesting theory IF the pyramids became obsolete (although others could be a culprit, such as the Oracle and Hanging Gardens)

quote: Odd, it seems to have happened in most of my cities, even them outside of the warzone (having ai pillageing my improvements!! )

This is an effect of War Weariness, the governor is starving cities because it needs the entertainers to prevent riots.

quote: Peace

Prevents WW, I suggest you sign one of these treaties with your enemies, ASAP. (or get more happiness improvements, luxuries and MP's, ect.)

As Solomwi has noted the luxury slider can help with this situation during peacetime but WW will only get worse, so peace is the only permanent solution to the problem.

	19-06-2004 08:50									#49
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Well, I just completed my first ever CIVIII Conquests game and lost miserably!

But will take the lessons learned and try to do better next time!

Thanks for all the help and will see how the next go 'round plays out!!

Peace (Yeah I should have tried this!)

Grandpa Troll

	19-06-2004 22:44									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll Well, I just completed my first ever CIVIII Conquests game and lost miserably! But will take the lessons learned and try to do better next time! Thanks for all the help and will see how the next go 'round plays out!! Peace (Yeah I should have tried this!) Grandpa Troll

GPT- you really should change your sign off to 'just trolling along'

	20-06-2004 23:56									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber GPT- you really should change your sign off to 'just trolling along'

Is that REALLY you in your avatar?

That would be trolling along

Peace
GT

	21-06-2004 03:47									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll Is that REALLY you in your avatar? That would be trolling along Peace GT

	21-06-2004 06:47									#53
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I prefer to control my empire manually. Often the governor doesn't choose the correct tile and they just don't choose the correct production most of the time. I also tell them to never build wonders or small wonders, because i'd rather choose to do this myself rather than it starting when I don't want it to (and sometimes I don't notice).

	22-06-2004 23:21									#54
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Only to stop cities from building wonders when I don't want them to.