28-05-2004 00:46									#31
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I think Plato has hit the nail in the spam there

	28-05-2004 01:16									#32
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO Simple, but all inclusive answer to why posts do not count as +1 in OTF under any circumstances: THIS IS A GAMING SITE remember?

Then explain to me why posts in Community counts.

	28-05-2004 01:18									#33
	Put an end to popups!

It's a throwback to days where people used to discuss some gaming site.

	28-05-2004 01:25									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist What if all the energy and ingenuousness invested in such projects instead went to solving, say, world hunger or AIDS?

Then my store wouldn't have nearly as good a profit margin as it does now.

Posts count here so people will focus some of their energy on improving the site. Sure, the signal to noise ration isn't 1:0 but thems the breaks.

	28-05-2004 01:36									#35
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I guess the supreme irony in the recent preoccupation with spamming/pc is that I'm cranking up mine by questioning the logic of counting Community posts.

I guestimate that the signal-to-noise ratio is closer to 1:100.

	28-05-2004 02:40									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Then explain to me why posts in Community counts.

To enhance the site and to comment on ideas for making the overall experience better. The better the site...the more gamers will want to participate. And who better to discuss those ideas other than the current gamers here.

OTF is a very interesting place to express other facets of the gamers life, but it really doesn't contribute to the site's misson. The Community forum does.

Next question please...

	28-05-2004 02:55									#37
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO To enhance the site and to comment on ideas for making the overall experience better. The better the site...the more gamers will want to participate. And who better to discuss those ideas other than the current gamers here.

Sounds good, except that the Community forum is dominated by the same spamming crowd as the OTF, pretty much. I mean, this post is unusually releveant to the subject of improving the site than most here.

	28-05-2004 02:58									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin I swear that the Apolyton Community now rots my brain way more than the OT. I'm starting to tend towards the campaign to abandon PCs* altogether. *That is post counts, not personal computers. I'm not that drastically inclined.

The amount of spam in here now though is nothing compared to, say, one year ago, before other games came to the fore.

	28-05-2004 03:14									#39
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Actually I'd say it is worse, but its demonstrably not as bad as it could get.

	28-05-2004 03:22									#40
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It's a couple of threads though. The forum as a whole moves much slower than it used to.

	28-05-2004 03:44									#41
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Cybershy:

I don't agree with you. Brevity is the soul of wit. There is a certain art to expressing oneself in a short and succinct matter. A long post can actually say less than a short one.

	28-05-2004 05:01									#42
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Hmm, not sure about Spikey, 'last year' it were a couple of posters posting alot while now it's alot of posters posting alot.

	28-05-2004 05:14									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Bloody Monk It was a tip o the hat to a recently active new prince...a bit of inside irony in a post about +1s. But, I would be the last one to name him. Monk

Is that anything like getting your checker piece down to the other end of the board to be kinged?


On topiq, I thinq only posts with at least six Qs in them should add to our post qount. Any less than that qan only be qonsidered spam.

	28-05-2004 05:33									#44
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Hope you are feeling okay, jon. You are displaying early stage Raz Syndrome.

Take care....

Monk

	28-05-2004 06:28									#45
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Why, all the peoples fervently condemn spam and agree with whatever the Lord God Ming says.

Last edited by Comrade Tassadar on 28-05-2004 at 06:45

	28-05-2004 06:44									#46
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I'm making a list... and checking it twice...

	28-05-2004 06:46									#47
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That kind of begs the question, Ming....Why is this thread still open? Surely you must know that the "+1" would attract the spam sharks such as myself

	28-05-2004 06:48									#48
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As I said... keeping a list...

Some threads serve good purposes... at least my purposes

	28-05-2004 06:56									#49
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Ming, are you going to do anything about Oncle Boris' post?

	28-05-2004 07:03									#50
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What post

	28-05-2004 07:05									#51
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I have no clue what you are talking about

	28-05-2004 10:18									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Brevity is the soul of wit.

We could create a background CPU client for Apolyton members that would screen OT for intelligence in new posts, sorta like SETI@Home except the chance of discovery being somewhat lower.

	28-05-2004 10:53									#53
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Well, you have to filter through all that commie crap, "UUUSSSAAA!!!11!!!eleven!!!!!!!" et al.

	28-05-2004 11:06									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Cybershy: I don't agree with you. Brevity is the soul of wit. There is a certain art to expressing oneself in a short and succinct matter. A long post can actually say less than a short one.

I surely will not claim that a small post has less quality than a large post, though about a small post one can doubt that it has been made just for the purpose of spam while a large post will not be made for that purpose.

Someone even deserves a +1 for typing such a load of text

Another nice feature might be a timer that keeps track on how long it takes you to finish your post.... (only the time one is typing is counted)
And then it should come with every post in the thread, so we can laugh at each other, like:

WOW it took you 10 minutes to finish that 138 characters post! That's really a waste of time!

	28-05-2004 11:09									#55
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What about the 'avg chars in post' stats in the profiles?
Like:
CyberShy 2189 posts, 259 avg chars/post
MING: 24855 posts, 2 avg chars/post

of course excluding quotes and uncle-boris like spam.

	28-05-2004 11:17									#56
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I propose a ratings system similar to that on other sites. If you approve of someone's post, they get some sort of a reward (perhaps a +1). Dissaproval gets a -1. This would sort out the problem of witty posts, and quoted dribble.

	28-05-2004 11:21									#57
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Of course, then if everyone disagrees with you...

-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1
-1

and then all those who agree with you come on..

+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1

Increased serverload too...Not very effective.
I like Cybershys model much more.

	28-05-2004 11:23									#58
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Not much server load whatsoever. No more than all those thread ratings, in any case.

	28-05-2004 11:26									#59
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But your probably going to have more people rating other people than threads.
And imagine:

there are 10 threads in the OT with 50 posts each.
There are 500 people online. 10 of them rate each thread.
100 ratings.
However...If those 10 decided to rate each poster, then the number goes up to 500. If they do both, 600!
Not significant (i'd hope), but if Apolyton is ANYTHING like Eventis....

And again, its a flawed system: They probably wouldn't be rating based on whether the post was insightful or not, but rather on:its a friend/political ally/whatever side landed up on your coin/whatever.

	28-05-2004 11:31									#60
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It'll be a populairity contest, not a post-content rating.
And since I'm a right-wing christian on a left-wing atheistic/agnostic site I'll most probably have a -124060 postcount.