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Adagio is offline Adagio

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Jun 2001
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Anyone tried this?


I just got it a few days ago, and I'm still not all clear what I think about it


It does have some interesting ideas:
- Your units works in groups, and can transform on the battlefield*
- You need to level the terrain to build on it
- After sending lots of rockets to some terrain, it starts looking bomed
- The maps are very interesting: e.g. one of the MP maps is one huge Pizza

But it has some downsides too:
- There's one structure that exists all over the map, otherwise you wont win**
- It's very fast-paced. I doubt MP games will last more than an hour
- Some of the missions in the campaign are very annoying***




* There's 3 basic units (soldiers, officers, technicians) which can be tranformed into helicopters, rocket launchers, etc




** The power-generator, power-transmitter (Don't remember the ingame name for it)... it has to be built often to generate enough power (power = "gold"), and buildings has to be very close to it to be useable...
These buildings are linked (you see a network of 'power' in the air between those buildings), which can get very annoying when you've got 30+ of those


*** Yesterday I spent an hour trying to finish a mission... The game simply just told me to build a certain building in 4 spots, and defend them with rockets... ok, I got them built, and none of them was never touched, since I had lots of rocket-towers defending them... but apparently you had to defend each of them with the rocket-units, not just rockets...
Today I have played one mission like 10 times, but always with the same result: The enemy can get through my super-defense like if I didn't have any defense in the first place, while even if I attack with more units than them, and they have less defense than me (and worse planned defense also) I can't even manage to get halfway through their land (You have to dig to the center of their land, and they do the same)...
From being on their forum, it sounds a bit like there's one hell of a huge bug in the game...

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  Old Post 31-05-2004 17:28
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it sounds a bit like there's one hell of a huge bug in the game...


No reason to play it for ahile then ey.

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Jun 2001
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  Old Post 31-05-2004 17:31
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But this bug doesn't show up before mission 7, and it sounds like this bug is only human vs AI

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  Old Post 31-05-2004 21:32
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What's that?

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  Old Post 31-05-2004 22:29
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What's what?

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I tried the demo but the only even mildly fascinating thing was the storyline, and I don't play RTS's for the story so... I still am pretty interested to find out what the whole plotline is all about, with all those connected bubble worlds, strange battlegrounds and what have you.

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  Old Post 31-05-2004 22:49
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I still haven't understud the storyline...

But the main reason for posting about it, was the new ideas in the game...

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  Old Post 01-06-2004 08:32
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What's what?


What is this game?

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  Old Post 01-06-2004 15:55
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Perimeter. Please try and keep up.

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  Old Post 01-06-2004 16:59
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  Old Post 01-06-2004 18:57
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Here's a preview of the game:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/perimeter/517548p1.html


This explains a bit of it


Though as I said before, I wasn't sure about the story...
In the preview they say the story is about some people who go to other planets because Earth is 'unuseable'... though as what I've seen in the game this is not correct...
Don't expect me to tell to correct story though, I'm still not sure what it's about...

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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May 1999
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  Old Post 08-07-2004 00:36
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Originally posted by Adagio
Anyone tried this?


I just got it a few days ago, and I'm still not all clear what I think about it


It does have some interesting ideas:
- Your units works in groups, and can transform on the battlefield*
- You need to level the terrain to build on it
- After sending lots of rockets to some terrain, it starts looking bomed
- The maps are very interesting: e.g. one of the MP maps is one huge Pizza

But it has some downsides too:
- There's one structure that exists all over the map, otherwise you wont win**
- It's very fast-paced. I doubt MP games will last more than an hour
- Some of the missions in the campaign are very annoying***




* There's 3 basic units (soldiers, officers, technicians) which can be tranformed into helicopters, rocket launchers, etc




** The power-generator, power-transmitter (Don't remember the ingame name for it)... it has to be built often to generate enough power (power = "gold"), and buildings has to be very close to it to be useable...
These buildings are linked (you see a network of 'power' in the air between those buildings), which can get very annoying when you've got 30+ of those


*** Yesterday I spent an hour trying to finish a mission... The game simply just told me to build a certain building in 4 spots, and defend them with rockets... ok, I got them built, and none of them was never touched, since I had lots of rocket-towers defending them... but apparently you had to defend each of them with the rocket-units, not just rockets...
Today I have played one mission like 10 times, but always with the same result: The enemy can get through my super-defense like if I didn't have any defense in the first place, while even if I attack with more units than them, and they have less defense than me (and worse planned defense also) I can't even manage to get halfway through their land (You have to dig to the center of their land, and they do the same)...
From being on their forum, it sounds a bit like there's one hell of a huge bug in the game...


I like starcraft and games there rarely last much longer than 30 minutes

JOn Miller
(fastest is 12 minutes)

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  Old Post 08-07-2004 01:11
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I wouldn't have expected to see a response like that on a Civilization site

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  Old Post 08-07-2004 01:59
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I wouldn't have expected to see a response like that on a Civilization site

Newbie Though not so much you also want to get your +1

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  Old Post 08-07-2004 02:01
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What has newbie to do with this?
In normal games the fun first begins after 30 mins...

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You said you didn't expect to see a response like that. If you weren't a newbie, you've had seen it before

Or at least know Jon Miller well enough.

A lot of games are only fun for 30 minutes though. Then they get old.

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  Old Post 08-07-2004 02:10
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I don't know Jon Miller that well... but that has nothing to do with being a newbie... it just has to do with the fact that I haven't seen that many posts from him

Of course the smaller games are only fun for half an hour or so... but for the more expensive games, the fun begins after half an hour...

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  Old Post 08-07-2004 02:13
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I could name at least a few expensive games that were fun for a half hour at most.

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I'm talking about the good expensive games...

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  Old Post 08-07-2004 02:23
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What has newbie to do with this?
In normal games the fun first begins after 30 mins...


how in the world?

even if you are just expanding (not meaning to get into fights), you would still run into someone at in expansion before 30 minutes were up (as well as have all the tech tree and 200 supply used)

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in games which end at 30 minutes in starcraft I usually build ~500 units... (as well as have full apgrades for at least 2 types of units, sometimes more)

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also, that is at normal speed (that is what my freinds prefer), I would prefer to play fastest which would be even faster

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something about this game reminds me of that other game(Earth2140?) that came out a few years ago, it kinda looked the same and had a 'earth is dying time to leave' type story line? It wasn't a bad game either, maybe the last RTS i played that i enjoyed

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even if you are just expanding (not meaning to get into fights), you would still run into someone at in expansion before 30 minutes were up (as well as have all the tech tree and 200 supply used)


I reckon he wasn't talking about Starcraft.

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Yep, I was talking about games in general...
Would Civ be fun if it ended after 30 minutes?

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