01-06-2004 23:39									#1
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I'm currently in two dissapointing games. My first PBEMs ever. I would like something fast moving, so I can get to the later parts of a game and see what it is like to face off with humans.

Four players seems like the minimum for a good game and should be faster than a larger game.

A small map will speed things up, but we could even use tiny or standard if you'd prefer.

I've never used accelerated production and am not sure how it changes the game, but it does speed things along so I am considering it.

Lastly we can start with extra units.

i see lots of interesting games here besides just a regular epic game. We can control more than one each, we can have teams or we can play one of the scenarios.

	02-06-2004 00:17									#2
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I see where you are headed.

A thought occurred to me. If we can get edit in 3 settlers and 4 workers per civ at the start, it would greatly speed up the early game .

Another idea would be to get a volunteer to set up a start of four cities each or simply to play through 50 turns for all four civs, without exploration, and then pass the game along to the players.

	02-06-2004 02:32									#3
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More initial units is probably a better idea than accelerated production. I don't want someone else setting up my cities though.

	02-06-2004 03:21									#4
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How about starting with two extra techs each or maybe 8 points of advances?

	02-06-2004 20:22									#5
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I don't think it's the tech that makes the early turns a long, slow slog. It's the lack of things to do and the wait between turns.

	02-06-2004 20:53									#6
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I'm interested in joining a game like this. Are you starting it here? My email is burly614 at yahoo dot com

	02-06-2004 21:44									#7
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Jshelr, very good point. Lets just stick with extra start units then.

Burly, this was going to be a 4 player game. The other guys are supposed to be showing up soon. Hang around though, because I won't be waiting for them.

	02-06-2004 21:56									#8
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Thanks,
Keep me posted if you need a fill in.
Burly

	04-06-2004 14:43									#9
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having a few setelers and a couple of extra workers at the start fo the game sounds like a good idea

but


I dont mind what we do i just want to start a game


greece for me pleases


oh and we are playing civ3 conquests 1.22 arnt we?

	04-06-2004 19:04									#10
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Let me know what you think of these settings then.

3 settlers and workers
tiny map
Achepelago, otherwise it may be over too fast
roaming barbarians
emperor
no AI

v1.22 C3C

let me know your civ choices also, one each.

Burly, welcome aboard. We got our four. This game is full.

Iron Civer rules and etiquette will be recomended reading unless we can agree on some changes.

I'll be out the rest of the day, but maybe we can start Sat or Sun. That would be a good omen.

	04-06-2004 19:27									#11
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dutch

	04-06-2004 20:51									#12
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Thanks for the invite 1889.

I'll try the Byzantine's, if no one's claimed them yet.

The settings are fine with me.

I'm at GMT-5 (Cincinnati, Ohio, USA) in case you need that info for turn order.
I also tend to play late at night (between 10pm and midnight EST) but can also play at lunchtime (usually).

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	05-06-2004 01:41									#13
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I'd warn you that Tiny-Archipelago is somewhat risky, in terms of initial start. If you want, I can map-check for you ... email me (jshelr has my email). Just tell me what you want to see as a minimum for starting locs (min 2 cities on island, must have X coastal-connected islands, etc.)

	05-06-2004 04:33									#14
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quote: Iron Civer rules and etiquette will be recomended reading unless we can agree on some changes

where can i read these?


excuse my ignorance...

	05-06-2004 07:24									#15
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Just my 2 cents, but if we have 3 settlers to start, an island large enough to accommodate 3 cities would be nice. Otherwise you'll probably need to join a settler to a city until map-making.

Bubble, try here: 30% Iron Civer Tournament
I'm not in the tournament, so if anyone else knows of a better location, let me know. I read the rules and the exploit/ettiquite list from this thread and it appears to cover everything I've heard about so far.

	05-06-2004 18:31									#16
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I looked at a few tiny archipelagos and space can definitely be a problem. 60% water looks good though. Most of the islands are conected by one tile bridges.

Also, how about 2 settlers and 4 workers. That way you can use them or join them to the cities. Remember though that on emperor only one citizen is content.

I'll take England.

	05-06-2004 20:05									#17
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We could always just bump up to a Small map. That way we'd be sure everyone would have substantial land to settle. But it looks like we're all taking seafaring civs, so maybe land isn't as important.

I'll be happy with whatever settler/worker combo is selected. I've never played an accellerated start like this, so it'll all be new fun for me.

	06-06-2004 09:23									#18
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OK here is what we got.

2 settlers and 4 workers
Tiny Archipelago 60% water
roaming barbarians
normal climate
temperate temperature
4 billion years old
Emperor

order is 1889 England
Bubble777 Greece
jshelr Netherlands
Burly Byzantines

Iron Civer rules and etiquette will be our framework. Here is a link:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=113223

On to Bubble

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	06-06-2004 14:08									#19
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onto: jshelr, Netherlands

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	06-06-2004 17:05									#20
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posted

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	06-06-2004 17:09									#21
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Our civ choices leave lots of techs left to discover and not much to trade. Enjoy the game guys.

	06-06-2004 21:27									#22
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I take it we're posting to the forum with our saves?

Well, here it is.

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	06-06-2004 21:31									#23
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So did Snoopy generate/check this map?

	06-06-2004 21:59									#24
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Its just a random map. I didn't get it checked, but I see I'm in last place so you all must be better off than me.

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	07-06-2004 05:30									#25
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i have emailed the file onto jeshler instead of posting it on the forum.. i think it might be quicker for me to do it that way after he/she sent me email address.


the best address without delay for me 1889 is dr.ashmore "at" optusnet.com.au..


oh and im going a little slow a t the momnet becuas eim in the middle of exams

	07-06-2004 18:06									#26
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On to the flame-throwering, smoke-belching byz

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	07-06-2004 22:20									#27
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my apologies for the delay. I copied my disk to take to work so that I could play at lunch, but apparently the game is too smart. I'll play as soon as I get home today.

So much for being allowed to make a backup copy. Anyone know how I can make a copy that will work? Not trying to pirate, just make it more convenient.

	08-06-2004 03:27									#28
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1889

Here is the sav. If you'd prefer to have them emailed, drop me a line at burly614 at yahoo dot com.

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	08-06-2004 04:34									#29
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quote: [SIZE=1] So much for being allowed to make a backup copy. Anyone know how I can make a copy that will work? Not trying to pirate, just make it more convenient.

I don't think there is any way to get around keeping the game cd with you.

	08-06-2004 05:59									#30
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Over to Bubble777.

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