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Googlie is offline Googlie
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This is a SMAX game. Standard map, 50% to 70% water, average everything, spoils on, no AI, co-op vicotry disabled, random events off. You are pacted and have the commlink of your alter ego

Chaos Theory

Will play as the Peacekeepers and the Believers

Hercules

Will play as the Pirates and the Righteous (a Believer clone)

Hobbes

Will play as the Cult and the Armada (a Pirate clone (all 3 of you, please download the Armada from here and load into your alpha centauri folder

Game currently being playtested

G.

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Downloaded Armada. I think I need to call into Submarines R Us

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Further notes

Per Team of 2 factions:

You start with just a single colony pod, and fill your "shopping cart" with what else you want to start with - units, techs (just your own regular starting tech, though), even bid on an SP or 2. Thus (with a budget of 1500 "credits") you choose:

1 Colony pod is a given - everyone starts with a free one for each of their factions. Teams then have to buy everything else to start from the following shopping list:

> a scout costs 100

> a terraformer costs 200

> a synthmetal sentry (needs Ind Base as a tech) costs 200

> a rover probe team (needs Plan Nets) costs 200

> each colony pod or seapod (Pirates only) costs 200

> a mindworm costs 100 (Cult only)

> a Unity Gunship costs 100 (Pirates only)

> a Unity Foil costs 300

> each tech costs 200 (can only buy your factions' starting techs)

> you can bid on 1 or more of the 4 early SP's (ME, CN, WP, HGP)


Submit your wish list to me as soon as you've developed it (especially bids for SP's)

Suggestion

To level the playing field I suggest that Hobbes be given a budget of between 1500 and 2000 ec's (for both Hercules and Chaos Theory they can replicate their normal start positions - 4 colony pods (2 of them free), 2 scouts and their 2 starting tech for 1000 ec's, giving them 500 for additional goodies. As Hobbes has been foisted with 2 factions that each have 2 start techs, he needs 1500 to replicate his start position - 4 pods (2 of them free) 1 scout, 1 mindworm, 1 Unity Gunship and 4 techs)

Now certainly it's worth something to be able to gift Cent Ecol (the Cult's) to the Pirates or Doc Flex (the Pirates') to the Cult without either of them researching it, so maybe 1800 ec's is a fair compromise? (that way if he wants to bid 500 ec's for a SP he needs to forfeit a tech or one of his colony pods.

Thoughts??

G.

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Whilst I doubt the drones will turn up in a game like this, it should be noted that they should be able to have a synth sentry like Morgan too. The UoP likewise, could use their free tech to get a synth sentry or a probe team no?

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True - I'll put the 2 old costs back in. And as Herc is a Pirates clone player, then perhaps he needs 1600 ec's in his shopping basket?

Or maybe we make it 2000 per team regardless and calculate that 4 techs = 2 techs plus an SP or = 3 techs plus an extra colony pod and unit (as a rough equivalency)

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I don't really mind, but lets just decide something & get on with it!!!

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OK then - let's stick with the original 1500 per team. I already have CT's shopping cart so am awaiting those from Hercules and Hobbes

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Update:

Still awaiting Herc's shopping cart with his bids. (I have Hobbes and CT's)

G.

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Shopping carts received and bids analyzed.

Note that any unused credits can be added to your starting energy reserves (eg - you start with 10, but if you have 50 leftover after your purchases, I'll start you with 60)

Do you want me to publish the owners of the SP's (or leave it a big secret until you open your turn and hit F5?)

G.

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Go ahead and publish who has what, for the benefit of anyone watching this thread, or coming back to it later.

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I don't mind either way.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hercules
Downloaded Armada. I think I need to call into Submarines R Us


LOL, Herc. (I thought that the Armada was one of my creations, but it was someone else's)

Hobbes: if you'd rather not have bases named:

#BASES
Aomori, Akita, Sakata, Niigata, Nagoaka, Toyama, Kanazawa, Fukui, Tottori, Yonago, Shimonoseki, Kitakushu, Fukuoka, Sasebo, Kumamoto, Kagoshima, Miyakonojo, etc etc
#END

You might want to download The Corsairs

They have more familiar sounding bases such as:

#WATERBASES
Trafalgar
Half Nelson
Horatio's Haven
Lord's Lair
Tidal Barrier
Reef Knot
Quicksands
Dire Straits
Current Affairs
Beach Head
Delta
Sonar Buoy
Ebb and Flow
Sands of Time
Eye Patch
Victory Remembered
Full Sail
Compass Point
Anchors Aweigh
Man-o-War
Hardy's Hope
Ark Royal
Hood's Haven
Prince of Wales Rest
Napoleon's Nemesis
Blind Eye
#END

(same site as above referenced)

But if you do, then Hercules and Chaos Theory should download that faction as well

G.

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On the assumption that Hobbes does change his clone to The Corsairs, the SP's will be located in:

The Weather Paradigm - Dawn of Planet (Hobbes)

The Human Genome Project - New Jerusalem (Chaos Theory)

The Merchant Exchange - Safe Haven (Hercules)

The Command Nexus - Trafalgar
(Hobbes)

These 4 bases will be established by me on game set-up (to enable the SP's to be located there)

G.

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I don't mind either way as I mostly rename all my bases anyway. I will download the Corsairs to ensure we are all on the same wavelength.

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I have downloaded Corsairs do I (we all) need to download the Righteous?

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Yes - it helps to have those faction colones and their graphics in your folders (not necessary to put them in your alphax.txt file unless you wanted to start another game using them - it's sufficient just to have them resident so that the game engine can find them for the game)

G.

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The game has started!!

2101, Believers, has been sent to Chaos Theory. Passwords have been e-mailed to all.

Turn order is:

Believers (Chaos Theory)
Pirates (Hercules)
Cult (Hobbes)
Peacekeepers (Chaos Theory)
Righteous (Hercules)
Corsairs (Hobbes)

I playtested to around 2150. It is a very interesting game, and you certainly have to bring some fresh ideas to the playing of it!!

You have the commlink of your other alter ego, but I didn't set up as treaties or pacts, to give you the maximum flexibility

Good luck all

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2101 -> Sven

I will be gone from July 3 through July 11, FYI.

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turn 2101 to The Cult.

Have a good game everybody.

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Turned to CT.

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Somewhat belatedly:

Suggested Rules (the Forum Wars set):

> Multiple reloading of the game to try for different effects is forbidden. If a reload is necessary because of a game crash etc., an explanation should be posted to the turn administration thread.

> Multiple drops or orbital insertions using the right-click menu is forbidden. So is airdropping from outside a base/airbase, or after having moved (except on a magtube) using the same method. Using the 'i' key when you want an airdrop means you will automatically comply with these restrictions.

> Inserting Stockpile Energy into the build queue after a military unit is allowed.

> If a player employs a tactic that causes a state of vendetta, they are not allowed to "accept" a pending diplomatic agreement with that faction in the same turn, causing a change in diplomatic status or the transfer of energy or knowledge.

> If an aggressive probe action (anything except infiltration) is used you must advise the victim that you have taken covert action against them, and let them decide what consequences should follow

> Upgrading units with the design workshop is allowed at any time

> Communications only allowed between factions that have obtained each others' commlink frequencies in-game. (the embedded alpha.txt will reflect this)

> Social engineering choice limited to one switch per line per turn. (no flip-flop within turn - eg to green to capture a mindworm then back again to the original setting!!)

> Psi units cannot be assigned multiple point patrol routes (avoid instant demon boil bug!)

> Whenever the planetary council is called, the caller should post a notification to the thread, including vote totals (if applicable) and who has already voted for what. The other players should post how they vote.

> You cannot use the "Demand Withdrawal" feature to get another player's units out of your territory (the AI essentially makes the response on your behalf)

> You cannot accept a proffered bribe (which is done by the AI again) during Planetary Governor elections

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2101 -> Swaggert

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Hmmmmmm, off to a very slow start!!

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I thought I posted I had sent 2101 to Admiral Nelson ( Hobbes), but on checking, I hadn't even sent the turn.

Now rectified.

Turn 2101 to Admiral Hobbes.

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Turned to Miriam (CT)

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2102 -> Svensgaard

Also, I have convenient internet access at last! My approximate playing times will be
11:30 GMT
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Not received yet.

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It was with the HoF turn. Did you not get either?

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Received it at 24:46

Played and this next turn 2102 to ChaDawn ( Hobbes)

 
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