11-06-2004 05:58									#31
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I think its best to combine all jobs into one person.

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	11-06-2004 07:08									#32
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Yeay come to the Gaians Googlie!

	11-06-2004 07:38									#33
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I think it's a better idea to have a sort of concil running this game, with the differing positions mentioned before. A group of three CMNs, gods, mods, or whatevers, would be good. It'll make them more impartial, and open up the administration of the game to more opinions.

	11-06-2004 19:57									#34
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu Yeay come to the Gaians Googlie!

The only correct choice for a faction.

	12-06-2004 00:31									#35
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Umm, so. Do we have any idea on what we should poll or should we make a multiple choice combination poll which allows us to let the community decide who we want and what job do we want for him to do? I guess with three nominees that could be doable, but such a poll is also very prone for a mistake that voids the whole thing.

quote: Originally posted by Octavian X I think it's a better idea to have a sort of concil running this game, with the differing positions mentioned before. A group of three CMNs, gods, mods, or whatevers, would be good. It'll make them more impartial, and open up the administration of the game to more opinions.

Where some see "open up the admin of the game to more opinions", others see "more bureaucracy to slow things down". You see, even though this is a demo game, some prefer an authoritarian streak to make things smoother. Not that I'm one of them, a council sounds like a good option.

However, I've been out of the loop for too long to be doing any kind of informed decisions on this stuff, which is why I'm running around in circles at the moment and hoping for someone to say something.

	12-06-2004 01:16									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Googlie, if the Morganites no longer appeal to you and in case you wouldn't become CMN, you're always welcome with the Spartans, if the other Morganites don't mind. The game hasn't started yet and no secret info is known, so I presume faction switching is still allowed.

lol, just that Googlie has set up the Morganite´s private forum and thus knows our plans and the such.

I would be much more interested in hearing the reason for Googlie´s dislike of "his" faction! Googlie, what did we do?

	12-06-2004 01:30									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia As far as I see it, there are three jobs: - moderator, does the simple locking and moving stuff Method mentioned. - God, the Tassadaresque arbiter. - CMN, controls the technical aspect of the game, sets it up, etc.

I can do either/both of the first two, and I'd especially like the arbitership, but the last should be Buster or Googlie's, IMHO. I can't C a game. I think we need one Creator, and an arbiter/moderator.

BTW: Since CMN is Creator, Moderator, Narrator, of the three above, ones the M, ones the N and the last is the C. Having a CMN would be all of them.

	13-06-2004 12:10									#38
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Googlie did well, didn't he?

Buster's OK, right?

What's wrong with Tass? I have heard complaints but don't know the basis for them. He's been testy sometimes but has worked out well, hasn't he?


Mead

	13-06-2004 12:36									#39
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By definition, a mod works out well for those who benefit from his ruling, and is the worst mod in the world for those who do not

Which, btw, is why I consider Ming the worst mod in the world.

Edit: Regardless though, I have stated on numerous occasions that I have no wish to be mod again.

	14-06-2004 06:43									#40
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There are several steps that need to be taken for the ACDG III game:

Creator:

Finalize rules that ACDG III will adhere to
Drawing the map
Assigning the start positions
Tweaking the AI
Testing, testing, testing
Assigning passwords
Moving the first turn

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Moderator:

Ming appoints an overall Moderator(s) who will:

> Get Apolyton to establish Private Forums for the 4 factions
> work with Ming to appoint Private Forum administrators (to allow access)
> provide advance ruling(s) for possibly contentious actions
> adjudicate in-game disputes
> provide ongoing policing of the game and compliance with the agreed-upon rules

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Narrator:

Largely discontinued CMN function (I started "The View from Above" but it early on became a conundrum as to how to give away information without compromising teams' confidential workings and plans, so I discontinued it)

	14-06-2004 06:49									#41
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Googlie maybe what the Narrator could do is get approval, for any story segment he/she wrote, from the faction.

Perhaps even have story segments that only get approval for viewing for specific other factions. Like having, it's okay for data angels and gaians to see this, but we don't want morgan and spartans knowing about it.

You could have like multiple story threads happening that are intertwined. And people that are in the factions can only see parts of the story thread that are their own, or are segements approved for viewing from other factions. Only the Narrator, or I guess mods can see all the parts. I reckon that would be really interesting seeing how the tale unfolds and later seeing the full story after the game.

	14-06-2004 10:22									#42
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The Narrator would is essence head any roleplay we have in the public forums. He/She, in addition to what Kody and Googlie have stated, could also, then, advocate for RP activity in the public forum.

And, all three of our 'staff' should be given access to all forums, for various overseeing and regulartory reasons, and so that evidence is available to all in the event that they need to work out a dispute.

	14-06-2004 23:00									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Googlie maybe what the Narrator could do is get approval, for any story segment he/she wrote, from the faction. Perhaps even have story segments that only get approval for viewing for specific other factions. Like having, it's okay for data angels and gaians to see this, but we don't want morgan and spartans knowing about it. You could have like multiple story threads happening that are intertwined. And people that are in the factions can only see parts of the story thread that are their own, or are segements approved for viewing from other factions. Only the Narrator, or I guess mods can see all the parts. I reckon that would be really interesting seeing how the tale unfolds and later seeing the full story after the game.

I this Kody. But what would the stories be about?

	14-06-2004 23:07									#44
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Well it doesn't have to follow the ACDG exactly. I was thinking something along the lines of what the Hive had.

I think all the others are busy reading the private forums now.
You should read the Hive IC story threads. Lots of mindworms in there too.

	14-06-2004 23:13									#45
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I see you had fun.

	15-06-2004 04:26									#46
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Does someone want to poll for positions, if we accept Googlie's plan of what needs to be done?

If elected as Mod, I'm going to put up a thread to work out a list of rules that we've used in this one, and what people want to be regulated and what not to be. Then I'll write up the rules and poll them, so we all know when we start what the rules with be, wrt spying, diplomacy, turn simulators, playing time limit, etc. This can all be done while Ming sets up the Private Forums and buster makes the map.

Then we can get started However first we need to decide who does what position, and if any need to be combined. If buster's creating, I can mod and Googlie can narrate, or whatever people want

	15-06-2004 20:14									#47
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Sounds good to me Drogue.

Do you want me to open the poll then?

	15-06-2004 20:45									#48
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* GeoModder supports HongHu as poll opener and such.

	15-06-2004 21:02									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue If buster's creating, I can mod and Googlie can narrate, or whatever people want

I'm working with the Morganites to see how we can reconcile our (slightly) different game visions and it looks like there could be a compromise in the offing that'd work

I don't know if being an active team player disqaulifies one from being a "narrator" (not that I volunteered for that job anyway)

..... wondering if Vel might be interested in - and have the time for - the narration aspect of the game......

	15-06-2004 21:06									#50
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One can ask, off course.

Anyone seen Buster around lately? Jtsiyoda? Googlie?

	15-06-2004 21:12									#51
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Ok with options like the following?

Who should be the CMN for the ACDGIII:
Creator: buster
Creator: Write-In
Creator: banana
Moderator: Drogue
Moderator: Method
Moderator: Octavian X
Moderator: Googlie
Moderator: Buster
Moderator: Write-in
Moderator: banana
Narrator: Googlie
Narrator: Write-in
Narrator: banana

Have I exhausted all nominations?

	15-06-2004 21:27									#52
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I don't think buster has ever expressed an interest in the "Moderator" aspect. (Wise decision of course. )

	15-06-2004 21:37									#53
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Ok I'll take out that one then. Anything else?

	15-06-2004 21:56									#54
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Ah, that was what I was suggesting earlier on, I like it. Covers all bases

	15-06-2004 21:57									#55
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It seems to cover it all.

	15-06-2004 21:57									#56
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How about the game spammer? Need to foster more of that next game.

	15-06-2004 22:06									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Kody How about the game spammer? Need to foster more of that next game.

I nominate Tassadar and Jamski.

	15-06-2004 22:17									#58
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Look at my post listing and you'll see Jamski left Tassadar in his wake.

	15-06-2004 22:19									#59
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Re: Narrator - see my earlier post

I nominate Vel for this position (as a write in) - or Hydro (or each faction has an "offical narrator" who posts to a "Narration" thread - no spamming allowed)

	15-06-2004 22:22									#60
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Official narator for each faction sounds good. But couldn`t different members of each faction act as narrators - after they first agree in private forum that the suggested is acceptable?