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You sure are talking a lot in a movie thread for someone who has just admitted that you were discredited in regards to taste in movies.

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Since I'm on this "Cook, Thief" thing, here's a quote from the IMDB about the film:

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Let's say that you're an avid film-goer and you want to test your level of tolerance in terms of the type of bad taste, vile and disgusting screen images you can bear. Certain people would direct you to the zombie/cannibal movies made in Italy in the 1970s and if you took their advice you would indeed find yourself faced with some pretty unpleasant viewing material. However, such films are also very poorly made, with an emphasis on exploitation and somewhat shaky and grainy camera work. For an equally vile and disturbing film, made with considerably more skill and elegance (not to mention aspects of a Jacobean revenge play to please the intelligensia) look no further than The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover. This movie is just as outrageous, nauseating and horrific as any Italian cannibal flick, but in a breathtakingly artistic way.


That's pretty much spot on. Wait until you see the two naked people roll around in the truck full of rotted meat. Yum!

Here's another good IMDB quote:

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By the time I watched this film (at around the age of 15) I saw myself as a fully desensitised cinephile, having raised myself on a staple diet of horror and cinema violence since a very early age I'd found myself unmoved by the macabre for years. But this film stirred a disgust in me that I've not felt before or since, the violence too and degratation of pretty much every player in this gothic nightmare.

The violence isn't paticularly graphic but its driven home by the sickening relish seemingly taken by all involved.


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You sure are talking a lot in a movie thread for someone who has just admitted that you were discredited in regards to taste in movies


I talk most in threads I either no nothing about, or care the least about...

I'll take you up on that recommendation JohnT, I've heard of it, never bothered to see it

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Millers Crossing
Battle Royale
Kickboxer
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Drunken Master
Police Story (Jackie Chan)
Conan the Barbarian (Crom!!)

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I talk most in threads I either no nothing about, or care the least about...

I'll take you up on that recommendation JohnT, I've heard of it, never bothered to see it


I'd really like to get some opinions from others who have seen the movie. It is possibly the most twisted art-house film ever.

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I talk most in threads I either no nothing about, or care the least about...


"know" -- not "no"

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maybe, MrFun, or maybe I meant threads that I agree on! What would I do without you

Rent PCU... funniest straight to video I've ever seen.

Cadence... another good straight to video with Martin and Charlie Sheen... poor Emilio

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I saw PCU. It had its moments, but was a bit heavy-handed in the end.

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what you mean 'heavy-handed'?

It's got George Clinton in it! Gutter is hilarious

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Gods and Generals, a movie about a piece of History that I love, was painful to watch.

It was a collection of (mostly boring) speeches punctuated by overly long, drawn out battle scenes (did they really need to show each and every individual unit march into battle?). Ugh.

U-571 was just atrocious. First off, there is the little detail that it bears almost zero resemblance to what actually happened. There was a U.S. sub that captured a German sub w/an enigma on it - I've been to the museum in Chicago and seen it. The movie is nothing like it, though.

Second, moving past that since movies are not required to be historically accurate, the characters sucked and the battle with the destroyer at the end went far beyond my capacity for suspension of disbelief.

-Arrian

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The more detailed a battle scene is in a movie, the more likely viewers will have a much better idea of the horrors of such battles rather than seeing some lame, shorter clip of a battle.

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Gods and Generals did indeed suck. Worst movie I've seen in recent years.

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The more detailed a battle scene is in a movie, the more likely viewers will have a much better idea of the horrors of such battles rather than seeing some lame, shorter clip of a battle.


My main criticism with the battle scenes was them showing essentially the same clip over and over, just with a different unit - marching up into battle. Not actual fighting, mind you. Just the marching, with a caption like "12th Mass Infantry" or somesuch.

Look, as a Civil War history buff, I can appreciate the coolness of knowing the order of battle for a given battle in the war, but it's NOT something that should go into the movie, ya know?

-Arrian

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what you mean 'heavy-handed'?

It's got George Clinton in it! Gutter is hilarious


Didn't it end with a Valedictorian speech about "how we're all alike under the skin"? Or maybe I'm thinking of "Soul Man".

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No, it ended with the silly "we're not gonna protest" bit, where Droz sets the whole school on James Andrews ("enjoy the meal"). I think that's the guy's name. David Spade's character. Well, actually it ends with Droz & his chicky walking off to get some coffee, but that's not important right now.

-Arrian

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as mentioned in the movie "Sleepless in Seattle", a classic Guy film is "the Dirty Dozen".

i mean, i cried at the end of the film, but then again, who doesn't?

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Or maybe I'm thinking of "Soul Man".




If I had a nickel for every time that's happened to me...

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i mean, i cried at the end of the film, but then again, who doesn't?


Monsters. And gays.

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No, it ended with the silly "we're not gonna protest" bit, where Droz sets the whole school on James Andrews ("enjoy the meal"). I think that's the guy's name. David Spade's character. Well, actually it ends with Droz & his chicky walking off to get some coffee, but that's not important right now.

-Arrian


That's right. My bad.

I do believe that was the role David Spade was born to play. He was very believable in it.

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My main criticism with the battle scenes was them showing essentially the same clip over and over, just with a different unit - marching up into battle. Not actual fighting, mind you. Just the marching, with a caption like "12th Mass Infantry" or somesuch.

Look, as a Civil War history buff, I can appreciate the coolness of knowing the order of battle for a given battle in the war, but it's NOT something that should go into the movie, ya know?

-Arrian


Ok, if you're only quarrel is with the marching part of the battle scenes, I might be able to agree with you -- say, like 87.53% agreeement.

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"You remember this guy, he skippered Hitler's catamaran during the war."

Jeremy Piven was pretty good as Droz, too.

-Arrian

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Bull Durham is definitely a guy movie.

"I believe in the ****, the *****... "


Arrian/Tuberski --
I think we agree on Bull Durham, just not on the definition of "Guy Movies." Apparently Poly's standards aren't as stringent as some other places in that regard.
Which is cool...

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Ok, if you're only quarrel is with the marching part of the battle scenes, I might be able to agree with you -- say, like 87.53% agreeement.


That was my primary issue with the battle scenes. My primary issue with the movie in general is the number & length of speeches by main characters... soliloquies, really. The acting, for the most part, was awful - they were so busy trying to seem earnest, heavy-hearted, devout and brave that they forgot "believeable."

It was awful. :shudders:

-Arrian

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Dirty Harry
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Caddyshack
Major League

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Caddyshack
Major League


:smacks self:

I can't believe I left those out.

Does History of the World, Part I qualify? Or is that just a good movie, not a guy movie?

-Arrian

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I think anything Mel Brooks is a guy movie .

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Excellent. Then add HotW, P1 and Spaceballs to the aforementioned Blazing Saddles.

Hmm, thinking of wacky stuff... Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, anyone?

-Arrian

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Also Beverly Hills Cop series and the Lethal Weapon series. I do have to mention 'Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World' - a classic war film where the only women in the entire movie are the prostitutes off the shore .

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And before I forget: Anything Monty Python.

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Monty Python is for geeks, not guys.

 
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