29-07-2004 19:23									#481
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If you have HotU, be a Paladin and get good CHA. Without HotU Paladins are a bit gimped, but some of the Paly feats turn them into a force of destruction (So.... I can add my CHA bonus to AC and damage, for a number of rounds equal to that bonus... and a number of times per day equal to that bonus too? Ah... Its good that I have 34 Charisma.... *SMITES*) The only trouble is that you suck untill you can boost CHA with items and levels....

-Jam

	29-07-2004 19:24									#482
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I played a wizard in OC, so next time (maybe on Folderol ) I create a magic based character I probably will use a sorcerer.

What are the MC options? Particularly for the prestige classes. Or is a straight sorcerer a common build on MP servers?

	29-07-2004 19:31									#483
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I really ought to read the manual (yet again ). I had no idea that you could improve your characteristics by levelling up too. I just thought that you got progressively better magic stuff to use.
Jam, should I try DoA again with a fighter? And will it still work with HotU?

	29-07-2004 19:52									#484
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You get to improve one characteristic at certain levels, depending on class. I think there is a table in the manual.

Isn't it like that in BG?

	29-07-2004 19:55									#485
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Every four levels you get a new ability point. Every three levels you get a new feat. Some classes get extra feats, or bonus feats.

	29-07-2004 19:55									#486
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every 4 levels you can improve your attributes (str, dext, const, wisdom, intell, charisma)

	29-07-2004 20:12									#487
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Thank you (*3)

Spikey, it's not like that in BG. The only way to permanently improve your ability scores is to use magic tomes. They're +1 to the respective score and destroyed on use. You can use items too, but that's not exactly permanent.

	29-07-2004 20:56									#488
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I thought I needed more NWN practice before playing online again. Trying out DoA. I've died twice, once before entering the dungeons and once at level 2. Having fun though.

	29-07-2004 21:45									#489
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quote: What are the MC options? Particularly for the prestige classes. Or is a straight sorcerer a common build on MP servers?

Any combination of 3 classes is allowed Bear in mind that if your levels are more than 1 level apart from each other (i.e. Wizard 7 / Fighter 21) you'll suffer a 20% xp penalty, with the exception of any levels in your favored class (i.e. a Dwarf's favored class is Fighter, so Wiz 7/Fighter 21 would not have a penalty)

-Jam

	29-07-2004 22:01									#490
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Yeah I know that. I'd like to hear what some common choices are.

	29-07-2004 23:37									#491
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Bard 1 / Red Dragon Dicp 10 / Barbarian (the rest)
Paladin 1 / Sorc (the rest)
Fighter 10 / Weapon Master (the rest)

You won't find a server where there isn't someone playing one of these.

-Jam

	30-07-2004 01:12									#492
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A question about fighter/WM builds... if I don't take any levels of Fighter once I hit epic levels, will I ever be offered Epic Specialization? (Yes, that +4 damage does matter to me. )

I've seen the sorc/pal build on Folderol, but I don't think I've ever seen the bard/barb/RDD build anywhere. (...could a pal/sorc/RDD build work?)

	30-07-2004 01:21									#493
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{q]A question about fighter/WM builds... if I don't take any levels of Fighter once I hit epic levels, will I ever be offered Epic Specialization? (Yes, that +4 damage does matter to me. )[/q]

You'll be offered it as long as you have normal Weapon Specialization - so only 4 levels of Fighter are needed And it doesn't stack - so its only another +2 over Specialisation

quote: I've seen the sorc/pal build on Folderol, but I don't think I've ever seen the bard/barb/RDD build anywhere. (...could a pal/sorc/RDD build work?)

I saw two today on Folderol... yeah, Paly/sorc/RDD would swing it pretty well too, I guess. Its not a high CHA build though normally - only 11 to get the sorc level to allow RDD and get the +8 STR

-Jam

	30-07-2004 03:06									#494
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I played as a Cleric through the OC. Having a high CHA and WIS and plenty of Persuasion skill allowed me to access all of the Persuasion and Insight dialogue options. Sure, it doesn't make or break the entire game, but it definately enriches the story and provides a few more subplots.

Also, being a Cleric with the "Good" clerical domain and high CHA and WIS allowed me to be pretty good at turning outsiders.

"Oh look! It's a room full of succubi, hell hounds, and vrocks!" *POOF!*

That skill became even more useful when I took the same character into HotU. Turns out you can turn devils in hell.

	30-07-2004 05:14									#495
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Folderol server has been down all day and today was my day off.

	30-07-2004 05:20									#496
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Bard 1 / Red Dragon Dicp 10 / Barbarian (the rest) Paladin 1 / Sorc (the rest) Fighter 10 / Weapon Master (the rest) You won't find a server where there isn't someone playing one of these. -Jam

Nice, but only one of those involves sorcerors, which was my question. Stop skimsying!

	30-07-2004 19:59									#497
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos I played as a Cleric through the OC. Having a high CHA and WIS and plenty of Persuasion skill allowed me to access all of the Persuasion and Insight dialogue options. Sure, it doesn't make or break the entire game, but it definately enriches the story and provides a few more subplots. Also, being a Cleric with the "Good" clerical domain and high CHA and WIS allowed me to be pretty good at turning outsiders. "Oh look! It's a room full of succubi, hell hounds, and vrocks!" *POOF!* That skill became even more useful when I took the same character into HotU. Turns out you can turn devils in hell.

cool I love clerics in this game. But I have never used the good domain. I think I will next game.

	30-07-2004 21:04									#498
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My wizard had very high intelligence, which also triggers some insight dialogue. However in all cases it was:

*insight* state the bleeding obvious in a knowing manner.

	31-07-2004 03:06									#499
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What's a good character to pwn people with in PvP? (level 10-20 range, preferably. I don't like those super high level servers)


I've tried a few arena servers but all my characters have been complete gimps... often not even being able to hit someone of the same level before dying.

	31-07-2004 06:45									#500
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd What's a good character to pwn people with in PvP? (level 10-20 range, preferably. I don't like those super high level servers)

REGARDLESS OF LEVEL: Monk

Monks have spell resistence, pretty good AC at higher levels, incredible speed and attack strength for fighting with their bare hands, and rather good hitpoints.

The monk's only real weakness if fighting large groups of enemies - but if you're going to use him for 1v1 or small group PvP, a monk will probably win pound-for-pound over most other characters - at least on a consistent basis.

The problem is that you might say a Barbarian or Fighter/Weapon Master with certain feats would be superior, but they'll get decimated if they face a good spellcaster with the right array of spells. A monk is more versatile for PvP combat since a high level monk is good against both melee fighters and is resistant to spells.

Another new prestige class which some people now swear by is the Dwarven Defender. Dwarven Defenders at higher levels take levels of damage resistence against all attacks, along with ultra-high AC and godlike numbers of hitpoints due to all of the constitution.

Finally, on the dedicated PvP server I've spent some time on over the past few days because Folderol keeps going down, it seems that A LOT of people choose to be Red Dragon Apprentices... the obvious reason would be all of the amazing stats increases, especially the amazing bonuses to STR. When coupled as that is with bonuses against certain especially nasty spell groups, I suppose it's not such a bad prestige class for PvP.

Personally, I've opted for a high-level cleric with plenty of buffs and those ultra useful Divine Favor spell, Divine Might feat, and Divine Glory (???) spell which give you far higher attack ability and damage bonuses (making you equivalent of a fighter of the same level... rather useful). When combined with all of the other cleric abilities, I think a cleric could POTENTIALLY be very very powerful in PvP.

	31-07-2004 06:53									#501
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Do you just pick your character and feats etc with these PVP arenas. Or do you have to level them first?

	31-07-2004 16:20									#502
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Do you just pick your character and feats etc with these PVP arenas. Or do you have to level them first?

Some will let you change your level to whatever you want, some will start you off at level 9, or level 15, or whatever, and you have to gain experience to level up further.

	31-07-2004 17:16									#503
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Experience though killing other players? That must come slowly.

	31-07-2004 19:24									#504
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It depends on the server. Most of them are team based capture the flag sort of deals, and you are awarded experience for your team holding the flag or whatever along with bonuses for geting kills.


It can still come rather slowly, though...

	31-07-2004 19:35									#505
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Hmm, the thread has reached 500 posts.
Who wants the honour of starting the new one?

	31-07-2004 19:48									#506
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Oh me me me!

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