12-06-2004 22:01									#1
	Grrr!!! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I can't belive it.
While deinstalling some older games, I also deinstalled Sierra Utilities.

And by doing that, it automaticly deinstalled both Civ3 and Neverwinter Nights.
Grrr!!!

Can't belive it happening, considering that Sierra is in no way related to these two games.
(maybe some bug in deinstaller?)

Grrr!!!

All those lost saved games.

	13-06-2004 02:29									#2
	Support Apolyton

Ouch. Did you use the Windows control panel for removal or another program?

	13-06-2004 03:04									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

control panel

I have no idea what got wrong.

	13-06-2004 08:17									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Holy crap!
Thanks for the warning. Sierra and some others like to get their hooks into our PCs and software. I had no idea how deep those hooks were.

	13-06-2004 11:49									#5
	Got spare money?

death to Sierra

	13-06-2004 15:33									#6
	Remove this text

Some of these programs just think that they are god. Or rather their programmers do.

Anyone that is patient enough can unpick that kind of crap from the system (-sigh- another trip into regedit ). Others can just take pot luck.

	13-06-2004 16:09									#7
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Actually, I had the same happening with Pharaoh and Emperor: RotK (Sierra stuff or related, too). Either of them automatically uninstalled the other one first... I found a workaround on the Sierra support pages (clickable link, should bring the relevant answer up).

	13-06-2004 19:08									#8
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I've never seen anything like that happen before.

	13-06-2004 21:28									#9
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quote: Originally posted by vondrack Actually, I had the same happening with Pharaoh and Emperor: RotK (Sierra stuff or related, too). Either of them automatically uninstalled the other one first... I found a workaround on the Sierra support pages (clickable link, should bring the relevant answer up).

Yeah, I have the same problem.

However, I don't think that (duplicate installation strings) is what's happening here. If it was, Sierra Utilities would have brought up the uninstallation of the other progs it uninstalled when it was first being installed. I think this is probably just an issue with the programming of Sierra Utilities...

	13-06-2004 22:50									#10
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They would be unlikely to have a walkthrough on the issue if they didnt know of it being a "feature" of their software.

	14-06-2004 03:51									#11
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this may be a silly question, but did you check to see if it deleted the save games folder? I don't think all programs remove everything at uninstall..maybe?

	14-06-2004 10:42									#12
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The thing is that action of uninstalling Sierra uitilities deleted almost everything, including saves.

Some files did remained, but I think that those were patch leftovers.
Also, option to deinstall Civ3, Conquests and NwN stilll remained in add/remove programs (later I removed it too, in order to do clean install).

	14-06-2004 11:28									#13
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that is a real shame old chap

* Paddy the Scot passes Player 1 a coke

some companies do go to ar in what the attach their programs too....

	14-06-2004 19:57									#14
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Ouch! That's why I store my precious saves not in the games directory, but in a special folder in My Documents, which I back up (errr... or at least I should... ). Learn from it . Anyway, Civ3 is not a big deal, but that NWN is lost is really a shame

	16-06-2004 23:56									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Anyway, Civ3 is not a big deal, but that NWN is lost is really a shame

Best joke of the week!

	17-06-2004 01:19									#16
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I always move any saves I want to a special folder as well. I have Games_Bin folder that has a folder for each game. One for Civ that has one each for CivI, II and III, same for Moo, Homm, MM and many others.

I keep notes and saves in them and burn the whole thing off once in a while. I would hate to lose my DiabloII characters, just because I got a new PC or HD.

	17-06-2004 01:42									#17
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

As for NWN, considering that I played a dozen of 3rd party modules, I doubt that saves would fit on one CD, and probably not on DVD either.

	17-06-2004 03:03									#18
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You should play Jamskis "Dungeon of Apolyton". It's in the vault. I slaughtered Comrade Tassadar the "Communist Zombie", Asher and some other Apolyton regulars with great pleasure.

Now somebody should create a Firaxis module.

	17-06-2004 08:49									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph You should play Jamskis "Dungeon of Apolyton". It's in the vault. I slaughtered Comrade Tassadar the "Communist Zombie", Asher and some other Apolyton regulars with great pleasure.

Bet it was full of trolls.

	17-06-2004 10:28									#20
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Wow - does this happen if you have renamed the Civ3 folders (for dual/triple/quadruple install purposes) and created your own shortcuts?

How do these evil Sierra utils find civ etc?

	17-06-2004 11:29									#21
	Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by player1 As for NWN, considering that I played a dozen of 3rd party modules, I doubt that saves would fit on one CD, and probably not on DVD either.

Ouch. Thankfully, you can just download the modules from the vault, but getting your characters back up where they were is a different thing altogether. Recommendation: use the DM client cheat to at least get them NEAR where they were with as best you can remember of items.

That or just play through again.

	22-06-2004 02:53									#22
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Loosing Civ and NWN? I think I would die!

	22-06-2004 08:38									#23
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by zorbop Loosing Civ and NWN? I think I would die!

Especially if alot of modding and creating were done in both.

	27-06-2004 00:26									#24
	Support Apolyton

Had similar experiance this morning ; uninstalled some software and Sierra games, and whoops, Civ3 is gone..

Was pretty sure i did not uninstall Civ3, but now that i saw this thread, im even more certain about that.

Thinking i'll not install stoopid Sierra products again Seems they cant be uninstalled if you plan to keep your Civ3.

	27-06-2004 08:41									#25
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Down with Sierra.